I'm pretty sure we all agree that Hancock is the best example of a great plot hijacked, beaten and shot in the most craptastic manner known to mankind.

I think I've only watch on movie that was an anime that I would consiter a "bad story" but still be enjoyable to watch. Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counter-Attack. The movie is overall good, it has great art work and mech battles but the one thing I dislike about the film was the ending. It goes like this. Amuro and Char are crashing to Earth on a falling Astroid, the next scene shows Char's Second-in-Command/lover morning his death (ok so now we know he's died) then the next scene shows Amuro's Gundam going critical then the T object flies off him and WHAM---the ending credits start rolling....WTF!!! There was still more to the story that needed conclution...
1: What happend to Amuro? You have to read the book...answer He died too.
2: Captain's Bright's son just killed a Federation Officer, Chan Agi. So now Bright is going to have to answer for that. Not only that but his son is in REAL deep trouble now.
3: What happend to the rest of Char's Fleet?

I don't like films with an open-ended ending .

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That being said the stories for Oblivion and Fallout 3 were absolutely atrocious. Even worst was the 2 dimensional characters (hell one dimensional in some cases) that almost had nothing to add to the story.

Lost was good until... it was so long ago I can't remember. I think they lost me toward the end of the second season. It got successively worse with each season/episode.


Thanks gnrfan. I could only play DA2 if somebody paid me at least minimum wage to do it.


Was that the one where he sees alien-like creatures, and one of them was named Apropos? I think? It was a bit messy, but some aspects I enjoyed.


Yes!


Yes, I understood that. The point is, that foreshadowing brings nothing to the actual story. Foreshadowing is supposed to be a light touch. Otherwise, you run the risk of leading your audience to believe that there's something more going on (which there wasn't -- it was just a copy-paste of one quarter of the main story). It's misleading and manipulative -- and not in a good way. Each part of your story should have some kind of pay-off, and that part didn't: the story would have functioned just as well, and probably even better, if that foreshadowing had been lighter or hadn't been included at all.

Fallout 3's ending was rubbish (both of them) but the story itself was no different from the past 2 Fallouts.

Fallout 1: Go get Plot Device before everyone dies, kill psychopath villain by detonating unguarded nuke in their basemant. You may assist the villains.
Fallout 2: Go get Plot Device before everyone dies, kill psychopath villain by detonating unguarded nuke in their basemant. No alternate endings.
Fallout 3: Go find Dad, help start Plot Device to ease people's lives, kill psychopath (Eden) and Extremist With Good Intentions (Autumn) villain using another Plot Device. You may assist the villains in the original game.

That said Fallout has never had good plots. The magic comes from the setting and writing.

I kinda liked Hancock. Not that I don't recognize it's many problems, but for some reason...it's one of those films that I liked despite myself.

Going to agree with King's Insomnia ... the idea was kinda cool, but it was over-bloated and in the end, just not interesting.

The end of King's Tommyknockers was pretty terrible as well. It's been a very long time since I read it so I can't remember exactly why I was so annoyed....too pat, too predictable perhaps? At any rate, it was not satisfying after the initial build up.

Pocahontas with smurfs.


My thoughts, too.


Exactly what pulled.


I did, too, but I can't say the story isn't poor.

i must be one of the few people who enjoyed it till the end but yeah, the two first seasons were best.

Watched the first half of the first season intensely, sitting on edge for something to happen, then something happened and it was so underwhelming that I felt dumber. Like being bashed in the head with a brick of immense retardation.

So true, and its a common quote, but i love hammer horror films, and whatever excuse for vampires and werewolves are in twilight its pathetic and id prefer to take to myself with a chainsaw than tolerate anything twilight near me. Vampires dont walk around in the sun romancing every young schoolgirl they see, they wait in the dark tear out your throat, or turn you into a vampire or a human thrall, its basically violent, bloody and horrific, not cutesy, romantic and sweetness and light.

I have to agree with this. The ending to a story can, to me, potentially break the entire foundation of it. For example, the ending to the movie I Am Legend was a pile of Deus Ex Machina garbage and it took what was a pretty good story and just slammed it face-first into the dirt. An even better example is the movie Take Shelter, with an ending that has the potential to many people to completely destroy the entire premise set by the film, directly contradicting the plot's very nature and rendering all of it pointless. I'm sure the director intended for the ending to be entirely metaphorical, but that didn't change the fact that I, along with a ton of other people, was left feeling betrayed by it. It wasn't until I spent a couple hours researching it that I finally came up with an acceptable explanation for it.

So yeah, endings are a big deal. If the ending to ME3 is as cliche as people say it is, then I, a person who already absolutely loathes Deus Ex Machina [censored], will be pretty pissed off. It's bad enough that they felt the need to stretch the plot over three games, let alone give us some kind of predictable craptastic ending.

I've read all the books, including the short novel (and the Host, but that's kind of unrelated), and I hate them. The way the author destroys the English language aside, the characters are awful, shallow and unlikable, and the love story presented as "true love" is an incredibly unhealthy model of a relationship for the impressionable (pre-)teens the books are aimed at. The character you're supposed to relate to is self-loathing, self-destructive and clings on to her controlling and abusive boyfriend because he's the most important thing in her life ever, after only a few months of going out.

Watch http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067525/. It's the same move (from 1971). . .but good.

Or read the book... It's pretty good. The Will Smith movie version was excellent up until the That just... ... ya, totally ruined it.


One of the games where I did think a deus ex machina ending was appropriate was the original Deus Ex. However people might have felt about the ending (I loved it), it was really appropriate to the story. You didn't feel cheated because that's what the whole game had been about: technology, and how it's taken over life.

Another movie that I loved until the ending was Kubrick / Spielberg's http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/

Well, it had an excellent ending (Kubrick's), and then the narrator's voice said "3,000 years later. . ."

Then it turned into a complete POS.

Augh, I hated the fake out ending in that movie. It should have ended at the fairy. I mean really, it would have been a very touching and bittersweet ending, but that's just me. The rest of it felt so...tacked on.

The fake-out ending was Kurbick's intended ending but he was dead by the time the movie was made, and Spielberg has an irresistible urge to insert aliens into everything to make it happy.

Or possession faces into ghost films to make them dramatic. Sorry, I'm mad about Paranormal Activity, too.

Madoka was confusing? I didn't realize it even had a story.

My crap stories would be 11eyes, Togainu no Chi, Freezing, Rio: Rainbow Gate, Dragon Crisis, and Guilty Crown (to be fair this could have been good... could have...). Those be anime. Generally I don't have a problem with most stories, I'm easy to please, but those were just bottom of the barrel. I mean, I liked Hancock! Too easy to please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S881Ows0Ww

People having a hate [censored] over Mass Effect 3's ending (which I may do once I actually play the game) should probably watch that for a lesson in 'bad endings'.

I would have liked it more if it ended at Kubrick's ending, but the rest wasn't too horrible. It was just flat.


... those weren't aliens. Those were advanced robots. Weren't they?

Huh. According to the 'internets' they're supposed to be robots. But they sure look like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxVHseRHWfg. (at 5:19). Alien robots, maybe?

If you ever watch LOST, I know how to correct it. A simple change in viewing order. Skip the episode before the finale and watch it as the real finale.

On topic, Super 8 and latest Transformers.

I hate how Slash had to leave Guns N' Roses like that. They were the best band ever and they could possibly be a big band still......... Oh who am I kidding they still are big