I'm quite serious. I want to hear from their leadership in regards to why they allowed this to happen. If they think it will pass as a TES game I want those same people to convince me it will be as well. Common Tod, make a video and upload it somewhere with where a straight face you stand behind Zenimax and what they are doing with the game.

An apology to your fans would be appreciated to. Guess I only have myself to blame for expecting TES Online to be somewhat like the single-player games in game-play mechanics. Oh and don't tell me it can't be done. Darkfall did it. Mortal Online did it. Planetside 2 will be doing it. FPS style combat in MMOs is possible.

I was honestly hoping for TES Online to be what Darkfall Online should have been.

Upset Gamer,

Kevin

"I believe Zenimax Online Studios owes us an explanation... followed by an apology."


Fixed your title. Although I'm a bit skeptical about this, the game is not made by BETH.

Fair enough, point still stands.

Okay, that's too far, dood. Now you're getting into entitlement mode. I don't like the look of the MMO either, but I draw the line here, bud. Show some respect.

I think the community owes Zenimax an apology, followed by a patient wait until the release, followed by praise/flaming based on what the game is, not what the rumours are.

i dont think we deserve an apology but perhaps an explanation as to why the fans those of us who buy said games and play the games we buy were never even considerd in this development

Lol. They owe us nothing. I'm so excited for this game.

Sorry, I guess I missed the part where we owned the rights to the IP.

Legally? No.


Arena > Profit > Daggerfall > Profit > Morrowind > Profit > Oblivion > Profit > Skyrim > Profit > TES:O (ignoring all the spinoffs, and not implying that TES:O will end the single-player series)

We didn't create the IP, but without us it never would have happened. Our money funded TES:O. Thus, we should ethically have a say in what they do with it.

The only apology that's going to happen is when the game flops and zenimax apologizes to bethesda for making idiotic choices and losing millions of dollars

Then there is the risk of going the CoD style and facing stagnation.
Companies that take risks can sometimes come up with better results.

And i though this can't get any more absured.

This Community is even more pathetic than the Mass Effect Movement.

Companies that take too many risks without consultation alienate their players and ruin their games in the name of their vision. ME3's ending, Duke Nukem Forever, etc. didn't focus on what the players wanted, they focused on what they thought was innovative and creative and likeable.

A good company builds their games around a well-balanced mixture of player feedback, developer vision, and third-party feedback (testers). This ensures that it doesn't stay more of the same (CoD), but also doesn't become the developer's ugly baby that they refuse to admit is anything but the most charming infant in the world.

This is made by Zendimax Online, if this fails then it won't affect anything else.
That was pretty pathetic.

I was making a general statement about self-absorbed development strategies. Believe me, I know that the last thing we should worry about in TES:O is it ruining the Elder Scrolls. The only legitimate concern is that it won't live up to what it could be, but we can't fully make that argument until it opens up to the public.


Agreed. Especially since BSN has legitimate claims of false advertising.

Companies don't operate based on ethics.

The thing is, they are taking a risk just like they did with Morrowind. That game was a make it or break it, and even though the company isn't in that situation as of now, they are resorting to what they do best. They are trying new things to see what will work, and what will not. They have the money to try out something new, so why not try it. I honestly do not think this will be a big success, but I am willing to give it a try since they have usually delivered success on a new idea. I think it is good for the company to go into an area they haven't tried before to see if they can make it. Some companies have definitely made a huge success off of MMOs and they did so by trying. It never hurts to try something new. Even if some fans are lost, new fans will take their place, and they will keep growing in new directions. Hopefully that is going to be the outcome.

Yes, but I still attempt to hold them accountable for it. Crazy, aren't I?

Let's first clarify that they did not take a risk with Morrowind. BGS did. This is a different developer.

And I agree that they have every right to "what the hell" it and try something new. It won't hurt the Elder Scrolls.

I know that a different company is making it, I was giving an example.. Guess I should've clarified a little more. My mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWrgwde7O8

I kid, I kid. Howard probably had nothing to do with it, but it's still a stupid direction they've gone in. We could have had an MMO action RPG, something like Planetside/Asheron's Call meets Ultima Online, a persistent sandbox with player-driven guilds and rivalries and PVP. But no, instead we get another theme park.

Get over yourself. They don't owe you jack squat.

If you don't like the game then don't buy it!

Make a decision right now to not buy the game and then you'll be doing something that is actually effective to influence a company.

Difference is Bioware listened to the people. You think Zenimax/bethesda does this? ha.

Amen. Even if Mortal Online and Darkfall did a horrible execution, they were indie developers with low funding. I expected a hell of a lot more out of Bethesday/Zenimax.

I already decided not to buy the game. I'm trying to tell you that it's not worth your time either.