Okay, so I slept with Benny, let him go to the Fort so I could get him back and take over Vegas with him. I kill everyone in the fort without losing CL fame, I let him go, and once I get to the gate with him, he keeps disappearing and reappearing at the gate as if he were going in and out. Is it a glitch, or is the game implying that I wasn't supposed to be able to get him to the gate?

Well, he'd likely die, but in all honesty, It doesnt matter, Benny will disappear from the game if he successfully escapse The Fort, so it's all for naught no matter how you try to help Benny.

It svcks how he disappeears. I wanted to rule the Vegas alongside Chandler. :cryvaultboy:

If you speak to him as he pulls his gate blink he will vanish through the gate properly and be removed from the game. But really Benny isn't going to head back to Vegas he'd be to afraid that either House or YOU would kill him

If I shot you in the head would you sleep with me to baby

bigcrazewolf

It's the funniest thing...now when I see Friends on TV, I think "Benny!"

I did the same thing hoping him and I could take over Vegas together.

-I shouldn't be surprised but I am. Because its perry people are willing to forget that he blows a nice chunk of your brains out (Thats what nine millis do) and that he tries to doublecross you repeadetly. And people wonder why women stay in abusive relaionships. You would have to have an extremely low sense of self to stoop that low methinks.

Really? You're tying options in a video game to abusive relationships? REALLY?!

First off, I'm in a 100% healthy relationship with the most laid back guy on Earth. Secondly, the decisions I make in a video game have absolutely no reflection to the choices I make in real life. Thirdly, I have no idea who Perry is, nor do I care.

I kept him alive because I thought it would produce something interesting in the game, so please leave your accusations to yourself.

-Easy now. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. I am in no way trying to imply anything of the sorts and I do sincerely apologize if You felt that was way too personal.

What I am referring to is the "Roleplaying bit". I have allways had trouble trying to figuere out why people stay with other people who hurt them. Then we have a game that lets you roleplay that more or less. I could not roleplay that bit because I cannot imagine the feelings and emotions that would go behind such a deciton. Thats my reasoning.

The reasons given for deciding to sleep with or trust a guy who put a bullet in your head (I.E I could rule vegas with Perry) seemed very far fetched to me. Meta gaming taken a bit far. It simply boggles my mind.

Again. I am Sorry for offending you and for the wording of my post. I should have composed it diffrently.

I appreciate the apology and am sorry I took it the wrong way. The Internet makes it hard to explain thongs sometimes.

In Fallout I tend to play a character completely different than myself, and that varies from game to game. Plus, I'm a svcky role player.

Thanks for accepting the apology.

I've playe RPG's for many... many years now and I do honestly have a tendency to get a bith "holier than thou" (something that I hate in other people) sometimes. But somethings I do not do. Even if I am presented with an option to do so.

For instance in FNV I all ways slaughter all of the fiends in Vault 3 and the 3 other leaders. See the fiends put down an entire vault. Men woman and what really irks me, children. As a parent I feel that bars me from ever working with them. I even felt the same wy before I got kids. I realize that is "metagaming" of sorts but I can't get past it. Even though I have RP'd morally ambiguous caracters in most of my years, The credo of "no kids ever" still lingers deeply within me. I cant imagine doing it "for the experience" for the "fun" or for any other reason. Some things I cannot RP. I can't grasp it.

I didn't have my character sleep with him but talking to him in Caesar's tent and getting him to tell me his real story, and his plans and what he thought of the various factions.....I couldn't help but admire his vision and ambition. Of course, I was well aware by then I had to kill him or he'd come back for another go at me....shooting me in Goodsprings was business, but it didn't take long to figure out he could not be trusted...so I chose to take him out in a duel so he could at least go out on his feet.

Wow. What if after you saved Benny, he hooked himself up to house's machine that has a cerebral interface? O_O

THEN TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO LIKE HOUSE!

Wait... Why can't I hook myself up to house's cerebral interface, and quietly take control of Vegas and act as nothing happened?

-Because you have no clue as to how that works or because House might have implemented all sorts of defense mechanisms? Its "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vecna#Head_of_Vecna" all over again.

I'd instruct the Boomers to carpet bomb Vegas. House can be the only suitable leader of Vegas.

Whenever I read your posts, I read them in the voice of house. It just works like that in my brain. =|



-Requires a high science skill?
-You die and restart from your last save?
-Why do you keep making dashes in the beginning of your posts?

- Listen. You are right now doing what is in RP lingo called "metagaming". You are drawing on all sorts of both fictional and non fictional, ingame and outofgame mechanincs to plead your case.

- A "high science skill" would not cut it. As you are told by the followers when you try to bug house the stuff is so advanced it is well beyond anything seen anywhere. It was prolly allready hyperadvanced before the great war. You would have to have the specific manual to the thing, spend months if not years of studying it and even then there is no telling what "extra" software and firewalls and potential vira that house might have boobeytrapped the thing with.

"You die and restart from your last save"
-Oh.. this is rich. Metagaming in its fullest Naivite. You see... this is a Roleplaying game. That means we roleplay. Even if you do not, the game does it for you. Your inagame toon doesnt die and "respawn" at the bindpoint or at the local wow inn. He is dead. Deceased. Gone. He can't "reload".

That you can is great. Thats what makes games possible. You wouldn't like FO3 if the game self destructed the first time you died would you? gamesas wouldn't make alot of money implementing that feature. If your toon decided to use his own life and give the machine a shot of "trial and error" by using himself as a guinea pig, he would have only one shot. The amount of "reloads" you would need with all of the crap that House could have installed would be tantamount to spending days of real-life time, loading and reloading to get it right. How much "fun" would that be? How much programming time would Beth have to use to properly implement the level of tech and traps that house could have implemented? Far more cost effective and fun to just bar us from using the thing. It's so advanced we have no real use for it anyway. So the programmers and story writers makes the choise a DM would. "You can't use it. Too advanced. [censored] off and go do something else".

- Because I can, because its an old habit and because I find it pleasing to the eye.

How do I word this... I don't give a damn about your opinion of metgagaming... Nobody needs to put that much thought into advanced roleplay. Nobody should. I'm just simply asking why not. Dumber things are in New Vegas. I'm just simply asking just to ask. Just to say something. There's no need to take me so seriously. I'm just saying, "that would be interesting."

-Fair enough. And you are quite right. You dont need to put any thought into roleplaying. But since FO is an RPG It does help. As for "nobody should"... well, thats an opinion. One that I disagree with. One that many others would also disagree with. I started playing pen and paper RPGs more than 22 years ago. Thats longer ago than quite afew who pick up FO3/NV and stick it in their console. I am used to intense caracter depth and long(winded) elaborations on caracters, settings ect. Im the type who has a small library of books and novels of RPG related items and items I could use to deepen the my caracter and the world setting I am in. I am the type of person who found "Planescape: Torment" just right and sometimes even a bit light. I am not even the most fanatical roleplayer I know. My old DM for instance makes me look like a powergamer.

Sure it would be interesting. It would be interesting to have alot of things implemented in NV. But unfortunately it takes a [censored]eload of time and effort to program a CRPG and it takes writers who are original, and knowledgeable about the setting AND people who can make the impossible and unlikely seem plausible and likely. That alone is not cheap. And whilst I would gladly pay 200 $ for a good RPG (and more still if it was great), I doubt that many would. I also think that those that only wantede to pay 40$ for the game would feel "cheated" or butthurt if such an option was possible. I've seen it many a time since my days playing on the premium server of Everquest. I still see it every time an RPG has a DLC or something extra to be bought on the side. I use 200$ easy if I go on the piss on a saturday night. I would actually save money even if the game cost 400$. Anyway. The point here is that you get what you pay for. And in the case of FONV you actually get alot more than you pay for, compared to some of the games I have seen labelled as "Computer Roleplaying Games".