I am totally perplexed by the way Skyrim’s Creation Kit –(as well as with the Fallout New Vegas’s GECK)-- doesn’t really do what it is expected to do, especially when it comes to change Serana. I have tried all of the suggestions that other modders have suggested to no avail. I have renamed the “Tintmasks” folder and Dawnguard’s “FaceTint” folder and Serana still comes out two-toned with no visible makeup –such as lip gloss and the like. I have also gone as far as to uninstall both Skyrim and the Creation Kit and the same [censored] happens: NOTHING!

Why is Serana so [censored] hard-coded? Incidentally, I don’t know if you are aware but there is a petition going around to not only make her marriageable after the quest. I would appreciate a response although that too may be expecting too much from Bethesda. (Still, I have the same problem in Fallout New Vega's GECK too.)

It is really frustrating when you spend valuable time getting the NPC/Follower --aka Serana-- the way you want them and only to find out that all your efforts were nil.

You are all aware that you are writting petition about ficitional character from game so that fictional character can have fictional marriege with another fictional character?
I didn't play dawnguard but from what I read and seen on YT she is not supposed to be marriagable, she even dogde your proposal with saying that she is afraid of church.
Besaides marriages in Skyrim are borring , if you really want to marry her can't you just do this in roleplaying and whitouat the mechanic?

Perhaps what you say may be true enough: But, at the present I am more concerned as to why it is so difficult to change her and the other NPC Followers that you can create in the Creation Kit: And, by all intent and purposes Salana is a follower. Incidentally, I don't like churches either; let alone organized religion. However, that isn't the topic here. The topic is about the difficulty in getting the changes you make to your characters -created within the Creation Kit-- to look as you intended them to look or whatever. Incidentally, at the end of the Dawnguard quest you can ask Serana about changing into a mortal, which she will do: Therefore, making her potentially marriageable. Still, I do appreciate your feedback. Thank you.

(One final note: If Bethesda didn't want modders or people like me to recreate characters within Skyrim they would not have created the Creation Kit for us. Just saying. Again, thank you.)

Yet when you get married she'll be there in the front row in the very church she's scared of

Mechanics make things more fun than imagination because what's more fun than seeing your imagination come to life?

There are games that show absolutely no combat, but have numbers fly showing damage. I assure you, having the action mechanic of combat in the game and not just the idea is much better.

To some people, marriage, no matter how bad the concept was carried out, is still a possible concept to have in the game and so they'd rather use what they can get, rather than use less of what they have.

Her unwillingness to marry is a part of her story and arises directly out of her personality. When characters in books and movies do not want to marry it is usually part of the story we are being told. The same applies here.

Hey, before getting vindicative, try reading up on the craft. You need to export her face data by using CTRL + F4.

Serana will never be eligible because:

"You're sweet. And... I'm not stupid. I can see what you're getting at. But... that's just not something I'm going to be able to do. Ever. Given how I've lived... what I've done... I can't ask the gods for a blessing like that."

That's what you get if you tell her "No. I was just curious." when she asks about the amulet.

There's the unused

"Look, I care about you. A lot. And I'll come with you wherever you want to go. But... with everything in my past, I don't think I could bring myself to go into a temple and ask for that kind of blessing. It's just... it's not for me."

when telling her you want to marry her, but it's below the response about temples, which suggests that she was going to give the flippant temple response if her relationship with you was frosty (yes, the game tracks what you say to her and it matters) and the more heartfelt response if she liked you, but it's no implemented.

Just going to weigh in about the whole marriage thingy.

I played Dawnguard w/o any knowledge of it before starting (which is how it is meant to be obviously) so when I first met Serana and saw how she tied into the game, it was pretty cool. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Serana made the DLC worth the money, just because of how she tied into the game. Needless to say, with all the stuff you do together, it is disappointing to find out you can't marry her, even when you are extremely nice to her, because it feels as though you are forming a bond as you develop the story and then it ends up with her being just another follower (powerful and unique but still just one more).

Yes, we all understand it's a game. Yes, marriage turns the game's characters into boring drones (which is more just shoddy implementation than anything, but it is bound to happen). However, the mechanic exists in the game, and all characters end up being boring drones at SOME point, and of all the characters you have the potential to marry Serana is the only one you get to know past a few lines of dialogue or "hey I did you a favor, be my wife/husband". I think it is to be expected that people would be disappointed.

The main thing I can't understand is... why did Bethesda NOT make her marriagable? Again, I don't think the, "she would be a boring drone" argument holds any weight and it seems as though it would be a perfect capper to the whole dlc, especially since


the whole situation feels like Bethesda is giving us a raspberry and laughing their heads off. You could have told me that Bethesda has no interest in getting carried away in the domestic aspect of the game but... well, Hearthfire.

I really don't get this whole thing the story and mechanic pretty much tells you she likes you but don't want to marry, thats why she comes with excuse that she is afraid of churches ,she do not want to hurt your character feelings and says this indirectly, You don't need to marry someone just because you like them, I liked,Minsc,,but I didnt have a problem,with not being,able to do nasties with him.
And besides she is much more interesting that way , one thing that is not sterotypical in Dawnguard

Skyrim is full of mortals, hardly any of them are marriage possibilities, Serana is not even part of the main game but a DLC addition, as well she clearly says she is not interested in getting married, so you might as well forget Bethesda ever making Serana marriageable.

She makes for good company...and the hottest NPC in the game. O_O

This+10 !

CTRL+F4 is a no brainer but it doesn't always work as intended.

While I appreciate everyone's comments about the pros and cons of Marrying Serana I still remain perplexed as to why after using CTRL+F4 it doesn't always work as intended. Apparently it is as obscure a mystery as the inability to marry Serana. I guess I will never know!?!

PS

It astounds me that even other modders that I have come in contact with have similar issues, but is unaware of how and why the CTRL+F4 will work on one character created in the CK, but not work on another? I just started to use the GECK for Fallout New Vegas and a very similar occurrence happens within the GECK. For example, I had no problem with recreating Veronica the way I wanted her, but could not get Trudy to work—especially with other than the vanilla hair. I am finding too that the Creation Kit does not particularly like the Apachii Sky Hair mod.

Uninstall mods that alter facial textures (save for those contained within a .bsa).

Have you properly parented the mod editing her appearance on the mod adding new hair?

And you would get more responses were this in the proper place -- the Creation Kit forum.

I tried that after uninstalling the game and the Creation Kit. The only mod that I had reinstalled before anything else was the Apachii Sky Hair mod. Then I created my follower in the Creation Kit --as well as the remake of Serana. While the changes I made to her hair style and her lip gloss --putting a little color into face-- It all came out except for the lip gloss and the like. She, however, had the Apachii hair that I had selected. As for the Creation Kit forum I wasn't getting much help there either. I have conversed with a couple of modders who have created tutorials on creating followers and they don't have any answers either. Like I said it is an obscure mystery and Bethesda only knows for sure: And, they aren't sharing--at least on any blog or forum.

Sounds like its more of a fantasy kit you are looking for than a mod kit for Serana, get a grip!

And, who are you to speak on my behalf? Moreover, you apparently didn't read my initial thread as it was more about getting the Creation Kit to work properly than about my fantasy with Serana. Then again, I see what others mean about trolls?!? It is a shame that we have to endure such trash. Now, if if you have something positive to offer than by all means please respond. If not farewell!

She may become a boring drone after marriage, but she'll become a boring drone after DLC completion too.

At least if she becomes a marriage drone her conversation will be a bit different for a bit before it just gets boring again.

.I already miss her cool dialogue but I like having her as my follower.