Bethesda, these issues you are having from PC users could have been avoided very easily!!

If you would have done a Alpha/Beta test we PC users would have tested the game for you and reported all the bugs some of us are having!
Most of us would have gladly done this for you if you just would have just let us!

So for future reference, let us test the game BEFORE the game comes out so we don’t have all these problems next time!! And I am not talking testing the FULL game, but maybe the first hour or so! That would have helped out a TON!

Thank you and have a nice day!

PC users (WE ARE gamers too!!)

They do a lot of internal testing and most company's also hire outside testing firms. Regardless their will always be bugs in games this scale, it's impossible to weed them all out before you go gold and that's someone with coding experience. Players do things designers never think of on a variety of machines that it's impossible to test on before launch.

Oh, so you speak for every PC gamer ever? Neat. Must be a pretty important fella'.

I'm pretty sure they could have figured out that the y-axis mouse sensitivity scales with fps while the x-axis doesn't. Any testing whatsoever should have caught this.

Glad you think you can speak for me. It's mostly done how Xenite says: internal testing and hiring outside firms.

I'm actually really happy with Skyrim on the pc, and yes, even happy with the UI overall. There are two things that I want fixed though:

1) Occasionally the mouse cursor won't highlight an tem in the UI.
2) alt-tab doesn't work

It seems pretty certain that they tested it on the 360 only.

Any PC testing was not done prior to the game shipping.

There are a lot of PC players having major problems with the game, myself included.
I've heard rumours that it was the latest patch that screwed it all up..

There are so many things to take into account when making such a big game... But I can't help
but feeling disappointed when so many have been robbed of a pleasant first encounter with the game
that everyone seems to love beyond everything else.

We can only hope that Bethesda is working hard to get these problems resolved as we speak.

They must pay them with oreos.

alttab works for me. The UI will improve if you uncheck 360 controller in the gameplay settings (it's ON as default. Don't know why)

Im having no major problems or my 6 guild mates,some minor bugs but over all a much better release than fallout was.

If Bethesda would just admit the issues and say they are working on them it would make many of us feel better.

That's why I said "MOST OF US..." because there are the other PC users that just don't give a crap if there is a beta test or not.

Agreed. They won't though.

IMO it was not enough then.
Just the basic UI mouse funtions should be working, there is no excuse to stuff like this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaY5mRzfNxQ


Also don't get me wrong I LOVE the game, but some of these issues could have been avoided with some more PC testing!

3) keyboard re-binding doesn't work properly
4) Multi-monitor setups are borked
5) Crashes and poor performance on high end hardware.

Pretty major issues that become apparant before you've even gone through the introduction, a public beta however isn't necessary, spending 10 manhours testing the basics of the game on a few different setups should have been enough to catch those. (It seems as if they pretty much only checked that the PC version compiled and booted and left it at that)

I am pretty sure anything is better than the Fallout New Vegas release.

It's not bad, but the bugs in these games are obvious and I really can't see how they don't see these issues. So for someone to say they do "A lot of internal testing" I really don't think he knows what he is talking about. I am not mad, just saying, these are obvious bugs. If the majority could point them out as soon as they fired up that menu screen and started using the game, you can't tell me that no one knew about these issues. Anyways, it will get resolved, and most likely be more support from the moders than the developers. I am just thankful that Bethesda is so friendly with modders. They do have some take in credit for these games they make.

Uh-huh. You're suggesting they provide a big, huge game like Skyrim in its complete yet beta form long before the release date FREE OF CHARGE for us to "test"? Why not have the Bethesda employees hand deliver the game to you on golden disc while you're at it?

All of these big, open games like this are never without individuals who have problems. Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas all had their fair share of people who had problems, but in no way was EVERYONE having such problems. You just have to do what people did with those three games: deal with it until it gets patched and/or modded. I will not be "spoken for" by someone else regardless.

Also, I've reported hoverhand for just being generally unpleasant throughout the board.

If they thoroughly tested this inhouse as some of you claim, then they must have been 100% aware that hier game ran badly on high end hardware. So either they ether:

i) have crappy internal testing
ii) knew and decided to release it anyway, and patch it later
iii) don't care because they got paid, the reviews are amazing, and we are on our own

Do you know anything? Game testing isn't for 'fun'. Beta tests are so we don't have bugged up releases like this one. And good job reporting me, I'd love to see where else I was 'unpleasant'. Do swear words make you uncomfortable?

Maybe I'm just a bit pissed that I spent good money on a product that straight up doesn't work properly.

You're doing the 'blind fan boy' thing right now and it's making you look real dumb.

I'm so pissed off with this as well. Oh and by the way, the #1 sticky thread's instructions aren't working! All is well until


It definitely doesn't continue from the disc.

Oh and the Steam servers are of course too handicapped to get anything through.

So I also read there are a lot of crashed and bugs. So, they just rushed it out to get to 11/11/11? [censored] pathetic.

I don't think you understand how Beta testing works. You do NOT release the full game as a alpha/beta test............

And when you say "just have to do what people did with those three games: deal with it until it gets patched and/or modded..." These problems are fixed because of the the people reported the problems AFTER release. A lot of these problems could have been solved BEFORE release.

And I am sorry you do not want to be "Spoken for by someone else". That someone who wants to HELP Bethesda release a BETTER game. HEAVEN FORBID that we would have a better working game for some folks.

Let me put it in perspective for you. There is NO CHANCE, NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST, that they would ever give something like Skyrim, one of the most anticipated games of the year with an extremely large world to explore, to let the general public beta test in its entirety free of charge. Why not then ask them to just give the game away for free, then? They didn't do it with Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, and I am pretty sure they aren't going to do it with Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 4 and similar in the future. Use some common sense here.

It's obvious that testing on PC was minimal. Given the large number of problems that have been stated over and over in this thread and others, little effort was put forward by Bethesda on the PC release. I'm sure their attitude was to just throw out a rushed, clunky UI and let the mod community fix it for them. You know they are phoning it in when you have to go into the INI to make even the most basic of changes.

Doing a semi-public beta test isn't going to happen, BTW, nor should it. Not to get into a long discussion about it, but it isn't the right way to address this. Besides, these problems were found literally within minutes of loading the game by almost all players; they KNEW these problems existed but did not care. Again, they just figured that they would let the mod community fix their problems for them.

Beth should invest in an ATI card with multi-screens (3 and 6 settings) and just make sure their UI works with these or hire some testers who can actually test different screen settings.