First off, before I say anything, let me just say that I am aware of all the other threads that are similar to this and I don't care. If you want to waste your time pointing out to me what I already know, then be my guest. Now, my goal is to make sure that us gamers are heard (PC, or console players, don't even think about saying one doesn't count). And what better way than to fill up this forum with threads relating to why Skyrim was dissapointing. Bethesda will have to take notice. As far as I'm concerned, though, there isn't much that they can do at this point. It's not like DLC is going to completely turn this game around. All they can do now is tighten it up, but we as the gaming community need to make sure that we are heard.

Now, let me just say that Skyrim is not by any means an awful game. If you want to see an awful game, go play the first Two Worlds. Skyrim, as is, is an incredible game. However, the sense of dissapointment I feel when venturing through it is too much to ignore. There are so many things that Bethesda could have done to truely put Skyrim heads above the rest, but THEY DROPPED THE BALL. Read any thread on this forum and they wil be stuffed with incredibley valid points and ideas and ways in which we were lied to. Besides multiplayer, Skyrim would have definitely benefited from Bethesda listening to their fans. My theory is that Todd Howard is aware of Skyrim's shortcomings. You could tell with some of the comments he made up to it's release. He has even said DLC will focus more on "improving the game, more than making it bigger." Either way, Bethesda is up to make the next move....

This thread is not for straight complaining, its not for begging Bethesda to add multiplayer, and it's not for douchebags who rushed through the entire game, fast traveling everywhere, killing everything in sight, and now are upset because the game is basically over for them. And if I see even one "...they should add a quest where you can get a gun through an Elder Scroll...." or "...why can't this game be Morrowind..." I will scream for about two hours straight. This thread is for intelligent discussion. Something to give Bethesda so they can use it as a constructive tool for future DLC and future games. As a fan of this medium it's important to remain smart, otherwise video games will fall victim to games like Call Of Duty, where eventually they start to mush together into one cluster of crap. Will Bethesda listen? Here's hoping...

Listen to what, exactly?

Other than multiplayer, you have not listed one single issue here that you would have liked to see changed or improved.

If you want to discuss multiplayer, there is already a topic for that http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1320106-official-tes-multiplayerco-op-thread/

Or is your goal to "fill up this forum" with spam?

Yep, not sure what your problem is with the game. The sheer scope of the game makes certain that there will be some problems in it. However I'm sure they will iron out most of them and for what they made I consider it quite an accomplishment. If your disappointed that is your fault for setting unreal expectations but most of us are quite happy and have sunk many hours into this already. Games not perfect but its good enough to keep me entertained for well over 150 hours already.

I am sure if Bethesda read this they will be as in the dark as I am.

Hey bootysweat, can you not read? This is exactly what I'm talking about. I din't make this thread to list my complaints, [censored].

Yes, I can read real good.

And I still cannot comprehend the point of this discussion topic.

So you made athread tling bethesda to read all the other complaint threads?...

Im confuzzled...off to play skyrim

Glad you're reading this topic.

He probably wants a better way to make Bethesda listen to the community.

We(users) are not very organized. And sometimes we'll enter in a discussion with false or invalid arguments.

We know that Bethesda reads the forums. But it's getting impossible to be heard in a good way.

Exactly what this guy said. He seems to be the only one who actually read my topic.

Hmmmm....i thought i said that multiplayer WOULDN'T be a good addition. Thats cuz I did. Get your baby balls outta here!

hm......and out come the wolves......

Bethesda has already stated that they develop games that they would personally like to play themselves. If you're personal tastes in video games falls in-line to what they perceive is a good game, then voice your opinion with your support. Otherwise, close your wallet and go see their competition.

It's as simple as that.

Worst argument ever. You think they personally choose to make a game they'd love to play with one of the worst possible ways followers work in any other thier games, with the most empty backstory and development seen? Or maybe they love to play games that you do so few quests theres no real journey to becoming king of the universe?
I can't speak for you but I paid for the game before I played it, funny how that works, partly because I did expect higher standards of the company but it's no less invalid then buying a washing machine from a company you know to build sturdy machines with good function and a new model having 4 features that break when you use them. But also because I liked the series and features of it.
But maybe your right when TES VI comes along I should close my wallet, I'm sure Bethesda would love that as a business and as entertainment providers when people no longer want to even follow a series of thiers. But your wallet should be closed now, you've paid them, they made massive profits, that's thanks enough to put up with a few pointers or complaints or ways to keep thier customers, over a game that is broken, poorly put together and you can not deny they at the very least mislead us regarding the final product, lie is too harsh and maybe everyone does it to some extent but that is neither an argument for it being right or for them to do the same.

It's as simple as nothing, you pay for a product which universally has appauling return pollices you have the right to at least voice yourself over having your wallet speaking for you and being final.

Worst hyperbole ever


This is your opinion, and not the general opinion of both Bethesda and all their fans. A good portion of the fanbase is disappointed at the final product, but they didn't give this game the "E.T. cartridge" treament either.... if you're old enough to understand what that means, that is.


Quality is in the perception of the individual consumer. I may have some concerns over what Bethesda has done with this series, but I'm not saying that this game is borked and worthless. If I didn't like what they're doing, I'll stop buying their products. You can't realistically assume that by coming on their official forums and complaining about what you think should have been done to this game, and expect the developers to listen, is naive.

The only way to get their full attention is to stop supporting them financially. If the fans are truly outraged, then their next installment should fall flat on it's face in sales.


Again, you're off the deep end here with your statements. This game is not broken, and I'm not going to get into a separate argument about that since there are multiple threads containing this topic.

If you don't like the game, or the direction they're taking the series... logoff the forum, Google "future RPG development" and never look back to both the game and this board.

Return the options to have 1st person view on horseback and other modes. Not all of us like 3rd person.

Also, give us a Steam-free version of the game.


Apart from that, not bad game.

Every last advertised Skyrim feature -- smithing and crafting, NPC behaviors, Radiant Story, dragons, the hand-crafted world, the absence of classes, and more -- are things that were requested again and again by Bethesda's fans here in these forums. Bethesda listens a lot better than some of its fans do.

I still wait and hope for the day the Devs get on the forums and post simply "Everyone just shut up" even as a joke would be awesome.

A TL;DR to say "listen to your fans" and "add multiplayer"? They did listen. Skyrim is a great improvement over Oblivion on many points. And a lot of us do not want multiplayer. Go play Rift or WoW if that is the sort of gameplay you want.

Other than that, you give no specifics, just rant. I can guarantee no one's going to listen to you by doing that.

You know when playing OB I thought multiplayer would be cool then while sneaking around in NPC houses it came to my attention "what would happen if you break into a house only to find 20 other people trying to rob the same place... mass guard attacks.

Bootysweat made the first post and didn't lock it? For shame.

OP, you want multiplayer? Go play one of other thousands of games that have it.

OP doesn't want multiplayer. But what does OP want?

Bethesda, give me a game personally tailored to my liking, I don't care what the majority of your fans want, give me a game I will find perfect NOW!

Agreed, this is the most strangest thread title ever in the history of this forum!

im still confused by this thread

Can OP explain the point of this thread please, or what it is he wants to express?