First things first i know this may be seen as a religious discussion but believe me its not and if theirs any hint of this becoming about religious bigotry ill have it locked myself and for those that are thinking about typing a comment such as "you cant discuss bigotry without discussing religion" then stop right there, do a 180 and dont let the door hit you on the way out.

This discussion is more about people you have met, know or maybe yourself who treat someone differently just because of their nationality, ethnicity or even what part of the country they come from so please lets try and keep this as calm an level headed as possible or again do a 180 an walk at the door an come back when you have calmed down a bit.

As for the reason why i want to discuss this theirs a few reasons but most importantly its due to one girl i know who for all her intelligence wit and cold hearted beauty she is also the most bigoted person i know especially when it comes to England and English people.

Trust me her bigotry knows no boundaries I even offered to take her to Download this year the full v.i.p treatment me paying an even sleeping in separate areas so she wouldn't think it was just a ploy to get in her pants but she turned it down all because its in the uk even the fact that she could of met one of her fave music heroes didnt help.

Not to mention that when we talk she dont talk to me like a person she talks to me as if im england itself now im not saying im not bigoted cause i am but atleast im willing to give people chances even if they are from places i dont like but this girl their is no getting through to her or atleast no way of getting through to her without killing her.

Their is more but im going to leave it at that and again please dont mention religious bigotry.

Thank You

Nothing against me personally but my Dads one of the most bigoted people I know, that kind of sad "self righteous" bigotry too; he's a good guy too so I really don't know why he feels the need. He's been really pally with thr people he supposedly hates but somehow or another they are always the exceptions to the "rule". Guess I got to love the guy though, as long as he continues to keep it in his home which he always has.

Humans are stupid. They're hypocritical and over sensitive. What's new here?

Only time I show prejudice to someone if they show it to me first.

So an eye for an eye, is it? How's that make you any better?

if you don't like it, why don't you want to be better? I'm gonna quote the late Michael Jackson here, because it seems appropriate.

"If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself, and make the change."

I only hate haters

This is the type of ideology I don't particularly enjoy.

Does this mean you only like people who like you? Or love people who love you? That's very parasitic, if you ask me. Not say you're parasitic, but in general a lot of people have the idea that they only "like" people who "like" them first. It's strange.

"I only love people who love me."

If people show me respect then I show them respect (unless they serve in the military and/or law enforcement, then they get instant respect), but if someone disrespect me to my face then I'm giving them the same treatment. So far this method has severed me well as I haven't had ANY problems dealing with people.

But you didn't answer my question. Morally, how does that make you any better than them?

Bigot!



Honestly about Bigotry though? I have met countless Black people here in Hawai'i and they have almost all been nice and I have gotten along with a lot of them. But when I went to Minnesota, Michigan and New York I encountered some of the most entitled, rude, crude and self righteous personalities I have ever met within the Black population there. What is the deal? I am not racist by any stretch of the imagination; but there is a huge dichotomy in my experience with Black people. However there was an overwhelmingly negative experience with them in the places mentioned. I am not a rude person and I get along with just about anyone, but the straight up douchebaggery of the people I met with no reason for being rude surprised the hell out of me. My sister has become mildly prejudiced to the Black people in that area as well having lived just outside Minneapolis for 2 years. Which surprised the hell out of me as she has always been someone who never had a racist bone in her body. Having dated black, asian, Hawaiian and white guys in Hawai'i this seems a strange reaction for her.

Anyone have thoughts on this? Is racism really that bad on the mainland? My roommate from Baltimore implies it kind of is, but I want second opinions.

Here's a thought: Why do you think it has anything with the color of their skin?

White, black, asian, indian, they're all capable of being nice, or being a not nice. Sounds more like partial racism to me.

I don't have to sink to their level if they don't get all up in my face.

So you don't have any problem acting like an idiot or being a [censored] bag, so long as it's in rebuttal or defensive form?

people don't have to like me, just tolerating my supposed existence is good enough for me

When did he claim it made him better? It's an appropriate, probably expected response, which makes it neither better nor worse just an objectively justified course of action.

Ha! You call humans stupid and then follow it up with a quote from Michael Jackson, a man whose life was neither good nor intellectual.

I guess he/she means your own dignity. You were raised better than that other person, so turning around and treating them like [censored] will

#1- Not accomplish a damned thing, other than a fight if you managed to piss them off to that extent. They want to rile you up, and you'd only be giving them what they'd want.

#2- Make you feel guilty, and what if your friends and/or family were to bear witness to that? They certainly would be surprised to see someone they thought was a nice person suddenly stoop down to the level of a jerk because someone else was a jerk.

@ Rusty Gun- I mostly just like it when they pretend I'm not there.

It doesn't have to make you feel morally better, just satisfied; and revenge is one of the most satisfying things out there. If someone is gonna screw me over, I'm not gonna worry about "helping them become a better person" I'm gonna try to screw them over twice as hard. Anyway, your argument implies an absolute morality, which doesn't exist.

You can only assume that if the people themselves make it clear that their act of douchebaggery has to do with skin color. Which is often the case. In other words if someone from x nationality acts like an ass, it's unwise to think this has anything to do with nationality. If they act like an ass and make it clear that they're better than you/more entitled etc. because of their nationality, then racism is obviously involved.

I don't like an aspect of your life, so I dislike you and think I have the right to make those choices for you.

Well, not gonna lie, revenge does feel sweet if you pull it off correctly, though you'd probably better be prepared if they choose to fight back.

Idk...because it did. It isn't the skin color, it was the people. African Americans in the Minnesota-New York area if you want to be technical. They seemed disproportionately rude compared to what I am used to:
Go reread my post. There was an overwhelmingly negative reaction from a large amount of specific people. Disproportionately so. I am well aware that any person is capable of being nice. Nice assumption bud. The only segment of the population I met that was rude in such a way was the African population. It might have had more to do with the culture in those areas than the people. But idk what the culture is because I was only there 2 weeks. However it was Black people, not white, not latino, not asian, not middle eastern, not pacific islander. Just the Black people. Which seems really odd. Hence me asking whatrhe deal is. We do race much differently here in Hawai'i.

Partial racism? Clearly you didn't understand my post at all. Or you are trying to give me a false position. Either way, go reread my post and don't misinterpret it this time please.

*shrug* That's for the individual to decide in the moment.

Respect is earned not given and that goes for military and cops too.

Been in the military dont automatically mean your off the hook as ive known a few old school acquaintances who joined the military just to score chicks since apparently girls go crazy for a man in uniform.

Unfortunately it's not like it was back in the day. Where I'm from being an officer used to mean (and to a much lesser extent still does) that one was a gentleman, spoke at least two languages, knew how to ride, fence etc.

It does exist, I'm sure of it. But it's usually just a flaw in a person, like any other. It's not nice but it is kind of hard to weed out.