Blame the Console Not the Game

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:16 pm

For past week and a half all I've seen are "omg laaag, raaaaage suesuesuesue" getting tired of it Pete Hines stated the 1.2 patch has already been submitted for certification for all you know it was submitted on launch Microsoft and Sony have a tendency to drag there feet when it comes to patch certification, so re-direct your "anger management" issues and "QQing" to them not the gaming company, the people who made your Console are the ones dragging their feet for a Patch certification.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:16 am

If they knew about the lag issue, the game either should have been delayed, or it should have been released with some kind of advance warning, like "Hey, we think there are some issues with the way the PS3 version of the game handles memory. It will work fine up to a point, but if you run into problems just know that we're working on a fix."

Easy enough.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:03 pm

If they knew about the lag issue, the game either should have been delayed, or it should have been released with some kind of advance warning, like "Hey, we think there are some issues with the way the PS3 version of the game handles memory. It will work fine up to a point, but if you run into problems just know that we're working on a fix."

Easy enough.

True, but they probably didn't know from what it looks like it's a hardware problem on most consoles that is causing it, not the software itself they probably needed to do a few re-coding to make sure the system didn't do the usual "computer says no" crap and hence your lag and issues occurring. About 63% of the time it's a hardware problem not a software problem, hence it's easier to re-do a bit of the software to work around the problem with the hardware.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:01 pm

For past week and a half all I've seen are "omg laaag, raaaaage suesuesuesue" getting tired of it Pete Hines stated the 1.2 patch has already been submitted for certification for all you know it was submitted on launch Microsoft and Sony have a tendency to drag there feet when it comes to patch certification, so re-direct your "anger management" issues and "QQing" to them not the gaming company, the people who made your Console are the ones dragging there feet for a Patch certification.
They have to verify that the patch does not harm users in another way. Remember, the patch may not be just a patch for Skyrim, it could potentially require an update to the PS3's firmware which would explain the time. I'd rather they test it thoroughly enough than ruing my machine or the data I have on it.

You are correct though, from what has been stated, Bethesda has already made a fix and we are waiting on Sony. The thing these people have a right to be angry about is the fact that this wasn't caught at any level of testing. Is it really hard to have one person play the game and side quests once through (something that should take several days but should be done anyways)?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:50 pm

For past week and a half all I've seen are "omg laaag, raaaaage suesuesuesue" getting tired of it Pete Hines stated the 1.2 patch has already been submitted for certification for all you know it was submitted on launch Microsoft and Sony have a tendency to drag there feet when it comes to patch certification, so re-direct your "anger management" issues and "QQing" to them not the gaming company, the people who made your Console are the ones dragging there feet for a Patch certification.

it's hard to take anyone who doesn't know the difference between there and their seriously.

just sayin
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:13 am

it's hard to take anyone who doesn't know the difference between there and their seriously.

just sayin
Ooh! Don't forget "they're". I mean, if you're going to bring that up we should probably further the education experience, haha.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:04 pm

Ooh! Don't forget "they're".

yeah true. i just was pointing out the fact that he used there when he should have used their.

that always bugs me.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:40 am

yeah true. i just was pointing out the fact that he used there when he should have used their.

that always bugs me.
I'm half awake and its 5AM and can't sleep, and I think my leukemia + brain damage caused by the medications excuses that when a small portion of my brain is liquid now...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:17 pm

I'm half awake and its 5AM and can't sleep, and I think my leukemia + brain damage caused by the medications excuses that when a small portion of my brain is liquid now...
My condolences and best of luck to recovery. Brain damage does not help with adding credence to a statement though. The initial response if valid albeit now made an inconsiderate one by further revelation of information.

Still, you are correct that it is no longer in Bethesda's hands. They are still ultimately responsible for the wait.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:39 am

This product should never have been released to the public on the buggy PS3 version that makes the game unplayable. It's obvious in that it's effect hampers game play to the point of becoming unplayable. Simply playing the game on the PS3 version for a very short period of time replicates the concerns of so many others. It's quite simple to duplicate and denotes no quality assurance or a serious lack of care to your consumers (take the money and run!!!!). Consequently, anger, QQ's, and even a possible lawsuit, if this condition is not remedied, should be directed at the developers. Certainly not towards the console manufacturer.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:46 am

Why should we be mad at Sony or Microsoft? and people has a right to rage because they bought a faulty product - think of all the people who doesn't connect their ps3 to the internet? they're just out of luck entirely and they just wasted 60 dollars on a game that doesn't work - Now, can you seriously say it's their fault they don't connect to the internet? and they don't have a right to be angry?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:05 pm

Well, according to the majority of reports, unplayable levels of lag start kicking in about 20-30 hours into gameplay. If they cant afford to spend 20-30 hours on QA, I'm pretty sure I know who to complain to.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:59 am

My condolences and best of luck to recovery. Brain damage does not help with adding credence to a statement though. The initial response if valid albeit now made an inconsiderate one by further revelation of information.

Still, you are correct that it is no longer in Bethesda's hands. They are still ultimately responsible for the wait.

lmao
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:49 pm

I say if a company has been working on a product for years and it comes out with a million issues.. They knew.. As the guard in Arkham City once said... YOU KNEW!!!!!
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:17 am

Wroooong

A game in a state like this should have been delayed from the start.
It's all Bethesdas fault all along.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:27 pm

LOL, the game is Beth's responsibility - patch certification via EQA is down to Somy / MS yes 2 weeks is the normal approval cycle so at least that part is being done properly.

For Sam:-

"we can also blame consoles for ruining skyrim in general! It really needs to be a pc exclusive. "

If they did that they probably couldn't have afforded to make the game in the first place, plus MS wouldn't allow it to bypass the XBox so get used to it.

Also sentences start with a capital :P as the grammar police seem to be out in force lol.

If it had been PC only though, I'd have still bought it. :D
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:02 pm

LOL, the game is Beth's responsibility - patch certification via EQA is down to Somy / MS yes 2 weeks is the normal approval cycle so at least that part is being done properly.

For Sam:-

"we can also blame consoles for ruining skyrim in general! It really needs to be a pc exclusive. "

If they did that they probably couldn't have afforded to make the game in the first place, plus MS wouldn't allow it to bypass the XBox so get used to it.

Also sentences start with a capital :P as the grammar police seem to be out in force lol.

If it had been PC only though, I'd have still bought it. :D
Yeah i know lol, just raging at a poor console port.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:55 am

Wroooong

A game in a state like this should have been delayed from the start.
It's all Bethesdas fault all along.


OMG not the grammar police. I teach math. I svck at english.

This statement however brought back tons of FFXIV thoughts....
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:27 pm

This may well be true but the fact remains that Bethesda released a game which gradually becomes unplayable on my system. We are not talking about some minor bug or glitch here - the game I forked out £44.99 for actually DOES NOT WORK after a while.

They must have known this when it was released and leaving it to a patch which may or may not really isn't acceptable.

Anyway, it's a tremendous game so fingers crossed the fix does come and it sorts out this frame rate issue.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:58 pm

For past week and a half all I've seen are "omg laaag, raaaaage suesuesuesue" getting tired of it Pete Hines stated the 1.2 patch has already been submitted for certification for all you know it was submitted on launch Microsoft and Sony have a tendency to drag there feet when it comes to patch certification, so re-direct your "anger management" issues and "QQing" to them not the gaming company, the people who made your Console are the ones dragging their feet for a Patch certification.


Well how about we stay mad at bethesda, because they should of not released a broken game, period. We shouldn't need a day one patch if they didn't knowingly release a broken game. If a new model of car was scheduled to release on a certain day, but every time you drove this car more than 30 hours it blew up in a fiery explosion, do you think the car company is going to release this car? Hell no, they would hold back the release and have every able mind working to fix the problem. Bethesda knew their game was broken, was well aware of this bug, released anyways. Screw Bethesda, if they were manufactures of the hypothetical blowing up car the conversation would of went like this.
"Sir, all the cars are blowing up, but it takes a few hours of driving first."
"Oh, so they will be done with the test drive and have already purchased the car before it blows up? Good news Johnson, send it to production."
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:03 am

This is like taking a brand new Ferrari and filling the gas tank with sugar water. Then when the car breaks down, you say "blame the car, not the fuel!"
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:18 pm

I fail to see how are you helping by making a topic whining about the whiners. Beyond that, this is the Skyrim Hardware and Software Issues Subforums, and every single people here have the right to post their problems and comment about them. it is like going to a bar and complaining about the drunk people, what are you doing here?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:29 am

I fail to see how are you helping by making a topic whining about the whiners. Beyond that, this is the Skyrim Hardware and Software Issues Subforums, and every single people here have the right to post their problems and comment about them. it is like going to a bar and complaining about the drunk people, what are you doing here?
If I recall all it is is hate mongerers stating "If bethesda dont do this Im going to sue them" etc,etc,etc.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:40 pm

Well how about we stay mad at bethesda, because they should of not released a broken game, period. We shouldn't need a day one patch if they didn't knowingly release a broken game. If a new model of car was scheduled to release on a certain day, but every time you drove this car more than 30 hours it blew up in a fiery explosion, do you think the car company is going to release this car? Hell no, they would hold back the release and have every able mind working to fix the problem. Bethesda knew their game was broken, was well aware of this bug, released anyways. Screw Bethesda, if they were manufactures of the hypothetical blowing up car the conversation would of went like this.
"Sir, all the cars are blowing up, but it takes a few hours of driving first."
"Oh, so they will be done with the test drive and have already purchased the car before it blows up? Good news Johnson, send it to production."

Ha! That is a hilarious, if overly ridiculous, comparison. I have 35 hours in on my game. I have played full games through twice or more in less time than that, though not games like Skyrim. Your car anology should be more like... They have made one of the best cars available, in red, blue, green... however the red car tends to lose cruising speed, topping out at 10 miles per hour, around 50,000 miles. Great, most of the short-term leasers will be happy... and well by the time the others notice, depreciation svcks. By the way, they probably should have noticed none of our red cars ever really work well anyway.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:43 am

If I recall all it is is hate mongerers stating "If bethesda dont do this Im going to sue them" etc,etc,etc.

Hey now, several people on the forums aren't screaming that the sky is falling, but they just want a game they love, myself included, to work as intended. People are so pumped about this game, that has been in development since the start of the generation of consoles that they feel they are getting a raw deal. I'm @ 80 hours played now, I just want the rest of my experience to be as good as, if not better than the first part of it.
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