BOSS Master List Manager

Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:53 pm

BOSS Masterlist Manager v5.2.1 Released

Minor update to correct a problem for people that do not have the "Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS" add-on installed on Word versions pre-2010.

    New Functions
  • None.

    Processing Changes
  • None.

    Fixes
  • Removed an option used in the code that could cause problems for earlier versions of Word that do not have the "Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS" add-on installed.

    Documentation Changes
  • None.

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Casey
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:37 pm

Thanks for the compliment.

Since you seem determined to have a Log File button, the next release will have one especially for you :)

That was quick - thanks for adding that in :)

PS: Are you planning to update BOMM again whenever the new BOSS (that handles ghosted files) is released, as this functionality won't be required then?
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:35 pm

That was quick - thanks for adding that in :)

PS: Are you planning to update BOMM again whenever the new BOSS (that handles ghosted files) is released, as this functionality won't be required then?

If the new BOSS no longer requires a batch file (BOSS.bat), then I don't need to make any changes - the current code checks to see if the BOSS Command in your settings is an EXE and, if it is, does NOT use the new ghost code.

Although I will probably be doing an update tomorrow for the Installer - introducing some refinements and inserting a default BOSS Command if it is a new installation - no further BOMM changes planned (but I always say that and then something happens :) )
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:10 am

BOSS Masterlist Manager v5.2.2 Released

This release updates the Installer to correct an oversight and add some refinements. It also applies one BOMM fix for empty BOSS Log Files. It should also be the last of the flurry of releases I have been doing :)

    New Functions
  • None.

    Processing Changes
  • Installer: Fields are recalculated each time you change the Install Type to avoid misleading information being displayed (even if it was not being used).

    Fixes
  • Stopped BOMM crashing when running a Notes or Tags report on an empty BOSS Log File.
  • Installer: The BOSS Command setting was blank for New installations - this has now been corrected.

    Documentation Changes
  • None.

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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:47 am

Anyone interested in making an offshoot of BOMM for Open Office?
I'd do it myself if I knew how.
I used BOMM on a friends PC to help set up his modded ESIV but I don't use Word at home.
Awesome mod anyways :foodndrink:
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:29 am

BOSS Masterlist Manager v5.2.2 Released

Coincidence that you released v5.2.2 at 05:22? i don't think so! :conspiracy theory: :bolt:

I like the idea of an Open Office Compatible BOMM too, but presume that MS Word 2003+ has many advbanced functions that OO still hasn't caught up to. But I am guessing macros should be in OO, and that BOMM is a bunch of very complicated macros...
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:20 am

Coincidence that you released v5.2.2 at 05:22? i don't think so! :conspiracy theory: :bolt:

I like the idea of an Open Office Compatible BOMM too, but presume that MS Word 2003+ has many advbanced functions that OO still hasn't caught up to. But I am guessing macros should be in OO, and that BOMM is a bunch of very complicated macros...

lol
Did not notice the release time - what are the chances of that?

Don't really use OO so I can't comment - I really like the MS stuff. I did consider redoing it in VB or one of the other MS languages to make it more widely available, but from what I hear of BOSS futures, I think that eventually BOMM won't be needed - but it has been fun and I find it useful :)
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:24 pm

I am having trouble running this on Win7, keep getting a runtime error -35XX...


Edit: There was a problem with the config in my old BOMM.doc, since my old XP setup is "up in the air"... The new install works just fine. ^____^
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:04 am

I am having trouble running this on Win7, keep getting a runtime error -35XX...


Edit: There was a problem with the config in my old BOMM.doc, since my old XP setup is "up in the air"... The new install works just fine. ^____^

Thanks

What was the BOMM.doc config problem? Curious to see if I can avoid getting a runtime error.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:04 am

Thanks

What was the BOMM.doc config problem? Curious to see if I can avoid getting a runtime error.

According to the old BOMM.doc which was made on my XP setup, Oblivion was installed to L:\...., a location which is no longer relevant. If the update ignored those locations and took the location parameters I entered, that config issue would probably have been avoided.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:29 am

According to the old BOMM.doc which was made on my XP setup, Oblivion was installed to L:\...., a location which is no longer relevant. If the update ignored those locations and took the location parameters I entered, that config issue would probably have been avoided.

Thanks

I avoided that route to make the installation less complex to code and maintain - so it assumes that your existing doc has a valid config. Will take a quick look and see if there is anything simple I can do. If not so simple, I will probably release a minor, but useful, update that I have been using and then think some more about it :)
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:41 am

BOSS Masterlist Manager v5.3 Released

This is a minor change to include an Exit option after BOMM has processed your BOSS Masterlist. Makes the process very quick once your Overrides and Unknowns have settled down.

    New Functions
  • Exit option added to the BOMM processing menu and is displayed when your Masterlist is already the latest or when BOMM has applied your Overrides and Unknowns.

    Processing Changes
  • None.

    Fixes
  • None.

    Documentation Changes
  • None.

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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:45 pm

BOSS Masterlist Manager v5.3 Released

This is a minor change to include an Exit option after BOMM has processed your BOSS Masterlist. Makes the process very quick once your Overrides and Unknowns have settled down.

    New Functions
  • Exit option added to the BOMM processing menu and is displayed when your Masterlist is already the latest or when BOMM has applied your Overrides and Unknowns.

    Processing Changes
  • None.

    Fixes
  • None.

    Documentation Changes
  • None.


I was wondering about this, couldn't figure out if I was supposed to let BOMM grab the latest masterlist after applying my overrides and unknowns.


Thanks for the update!
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matt
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:24 am

I was wondering about this, couldn't figure out if I was supposed to let BOMM grab the latest masterlist after applying my overrides and unknowns.


Thanks for the update!
- Tomlong75210

Whenever you apply your Overrides and Unknowns, BOMM will always download the latest BOSS Masterlist first and then apply your changes. So If you add any Overrides or Unknowms and then press the BOMM button, the latest Masterlist will always be applied first.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:01 am

Whenever you apply your Overrides and Unknowns, BOMM will always download the latest BOSS Masterlist first and then apply your changes. So If you add any Overrides or Unknowms and then press the BOMM button, the latest Masterlist will always be applied first.

Have you thought about making those functions separate? ...or not taking the apply changes after downloading the latest list out, but offering a separate function that only applies the new definitions.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:02 pm

Have you thought about making those functions separate? ...or not taking the apply changes after downloading the latest list out, but offering a separate function that only applies the new definitions.

Can't say that I have. Rationale for the current approach is that in order to apply the changes, the Masterlist has to be set to its original state so that the Overrides and Unknowns can be applied - this has to be done for the logic to work. The only overhead is acessing the Internet for the masterlist, although if you disable Internet access, you are given the choice of using the local copy of the last downloaded masterlist.

I suppose this could be achieved by always using the local copy of the downloaded Masterlist, which would then allow the masterlist version check to be a separate function.

Perhaps I am being ignorant, but I am not to sure why you would want to separate the check from the application of your changes? Personally, when I run BOMM, it is usually to ensure that I have the latest masterlist. I don't seem to be adding a lot of new definitions now that I have a stable game.

Do feel free to educate me :)
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:29 am

Can't say that I have. Rationale for the current approach is that in order to apply the changes, the Masterlist has to be set to its original state so that the Overrides and Unknowns can be applied - this has to be done for the logic to work. The only overhead is acessing the Internet for the masterlist, although if you disable Internet access, you are given the choice of using the local copy of the last downloaded masterlist.

I suppose this could be achieved by always using the local copy of the downloaded Masterlist, which would then allow the masterlist version check to be a separate function.

Perhaps I am being ignorant, but I am not to sure why you would want to separate the check from the application of your changes? Personally, when I run BOMM, it is usually to ensure that I have the latest masterlist. I don't seem to be adding a lot of new definitions now that I have a stable game.

Do feel free to educate me :)

Every time I play around with merging plugins, I have to make changes to the masterlist. However, I do not mind the internet check, I just felt that would speed things up a bit. If all of my plugins are recognized, I do not care much about grabbing an update is all. Either way works.


Thanks for the continuous updates!
- Tomlong75210


Edit: I am now running on the Administrator account, and, again, the upgrade is not working. This time, the runtime error is :#53, file not found. Debug highlights a line with "& sBackup" or something...
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:47 am

Every time I play around with merging plugins, I have to make changes to the masterlist. However, I do not mind the internet check, I just felt that would speed things up a bit. If all of my plugins are recognized, I do not care much about grabbing an update is all. Either way works.


Thanks for the continuous updates!
- Tomlong75210


Edit: I am now running on the Administrator account, and, again, the upgrade is not working. This time, the runtime error is :#53, file not found. Debug highlights a line with "& sBackup" or something...

Then I will probably leave it as it is - although the longest time is spent accessing the Internet.

If Upgrading, the Installer checks to see if BOMM.doc or BOMM-F.doc exists and, if it does, it will rename the file to BOMM Backup.doc and BOMM-F Backup.doc. Before it does the rename, it checks to see if the backup document already exists and, if it does, deletes the document before renaming the current doc.

Given all the existance checks it is doing, I can only assume that this is a permission issue of some kind. Can you post a list of your BOMM Docs folder before you run the Installer - perhaps there is a clue.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:58 am

Then I will probably leave it as it is - although the longest time is spent accessing the Internet.

If Upgrading, the Installer checks to see if BOMM.doc or BOMM-F.doc exists and, if it does, it will rename the file to BOMM Backup.doc and BOMM-F Backup.doc. Before it does the rename, it checks to see if the backup document already exists and, if it does, deletes the document before renaming the current doc.

Given all the existance checks it is doing, I can only assume that this is a permission issue of some kind. Can you post a list of your BOMM Docs folder before you run the Installer - perhaps there is a clue.

My BOMM.doc is in "BOSS Masterlist Manager" in Documents. I also have an install folder, a copy of of the DOC, a help PDF and an Installer DOC file in that folder.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:47 am

My BOMM.doc is in "BOSS Masterlist Manager" in Documents. I also have an install folder, a copy of of the DOC, a help PDF and an Installer DOC file in that folder.

Was hoping for a list produced by something like dir > dir.txt so I could see what it looks like.

Do you have the Installer in the same folder as the BOMM documents? If so, this is not something I have ever tried or intended. You could try move the Intaller file and folder to a separate directory and then try the Installer from the new location to see if you still get the problem.

Edit:
Just tried the Installer from the BOMM folder and it worked on my machine.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:58 am

Was hoping for a list produced by something like dir > dir.txt so I could see what it looks like.

Do you have the Installer in the same folder as the BOMM documents? If so, this is not something I have ever tried or intended. You could try move the Intaller file and folder to a separate directory and then try the Installer from the new location to se if you still get the problem.



 Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is D000-45E4 Directory of C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\BOSS Masterlist Manager08/21/2010  01:50 PM              .08/21/2010  01:50 PM              ..08/01/2010  10:12 PM            50,688 BOMM - Copy.doc08/15/2010  05:14 AM           797,935 BOMM Help.pdf08/21/2010  07:48 AM              BOMM Installer Files08/15/2010  05:12 AM           685,568 BOMM Installer.doc08/21/2010  12:39 PM            39,424 BOMM.doc08/21/2010  01:50 PM                 0 BOMM_Folder.txt               5 File(s)      1,573,615 bytes               3 Dir(s)  388,004,917,248 bytes free

I will try moving the installer.


Edit: Microsoft Word does not close when I close it. I think I need to reinstall it too, unless this is the fault of that runtime error...

Edit: Nope, still fails. I think I just need to reinstall it anew, BOMM, Word too maybe...

Edit: The BOMM crashes are the reason Word stays open.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:53 am

I will try moving the installer.


Edit: Microsoft Word does not close when I close it. I think I need to reinstall it too, unless this is the fault of that runtime error...

Edit: Nope, still fails. I think I just need to reinstall it anew, BOMM, Word too maybe...

Edit: The BOMM crashes are the reason Word stays open.

If BOMM crashes, open word, switch to the Installer doc and then close Word. The Word issues are simply caused by the fact the Installer "hides" the Word application while processing and if it fails, Word is not visible - no need to re-install word.

I can't see anything specific in your folder, except that (based on your ealier post) it tells me it is faling on the rename of BOMM.doc, which does not make any sense unless there are permission or ownership issues. Can you try and rename your BOMM.doc (using Windows Explorer) to see if that causes a problem (you can restore the original name afterwords if it works)?
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:18 am

If BOMM crashes, open word, switch to the Installer doc and then close Word. The Word issues are simply caused by the fact the Installer "hides" the Word application while processing and if it fails, Word is not visible - no need to re-install word.

I can't see anything specific in your folder, except that (based on your ealier post) it tells me it is faling on the rename of BOMM.doc, which does not make any sense unless there are permission or ownership issues. Can you try and rename your BOMM.doc (using Windows Explorer) to see if that causes a problem (you can restore the original name afterwords if it works)?

How do I switch to the installer DOC when I open Word? All I see is a recovery option, which lists a file that does not exist.


Edit: I can rename and run BOMM, which results in the warning about it needing to be the right name in order to function.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:36 am

How do I switch to the installer DOC when I open Word? All I see is a recovery option, which lists a file that does not exist.


Edit: I can rename and run BOMM, which results in the warning about it needing to be the right name in order to function.

Select the "don't want to recover" option and if the Installer doc is not open, then just close Word.

I have a theory...

1. Did you originally install BOMM.doc to the default "BOMM Docs" folder?
2. Rename "BOMM Docs" to "BOSS Masterlist Manager"
3. Try to do the Install?

If this is the case, you will get strange errors, bacause the BMM.doc contains the original folder in which it was installed. To move BOMM.doc to another folder, you need to open BOMM.doc and use the Settings options to specify another folder - BOMM will then copy your documents to the new destination and chnage the destination BOMM path accordingly.

Does any of this ring true?
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:30 am

Select the "don't want to recover" option and if the Installer doc is not open, then just close Word.

I have a theory...

1. Did you originally install BOMM.doc to the default "BOMM Docs" folder?
2. Rename "BOMM Docs" to "BOSS Masterlist Manager"
3. Try to do the Install?

If this is the case, you will get strange errors, bacause the BMM.doc contains the original folder in which it was installed. To move BOMM.doc to another folder, you need to open BOMM.doc and use the Settings options to specify another folder - BOMM will then copy your documents to the new destination and chnage the destination BOMM path accordingly.

Does any of this ring true?
I original installed BOMM to "BOSS Masterlist Manager". Now, I have it installed (freshly) to "BOMM", in the same location.

I figured the same thing, the installer is picking up the old location settings from the BOMM Doc. I probably will not move it again soon, so I will not have to worry about that, but it would be nice if the installer ignored the location settings.
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