TL:DR, some single woman spouting advice how to raise kids, uh huh.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8
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Also lol @ ratslayer. Don't voice opinions that bother you? This is a place of discussion, don't like people and their opinions you should just go. It's the existence of this forum section really.

Thank you, it is much better like that.

I'm the first year of what is broadly considered Gen Y and while most of what the writer articulates is highly subjective and biased, noting that she takes from the adage of how most women want a dad (read: leader to steer the ship) for a man, than a guy who feels he's owed it all. Still, she does have a point with the beginning which will be the only part I'll really address.

The illustration of "you're so special!" and "no one loses" is precisely what the generation I was born into had been raised with, and it's an utter farce. Someone who is special stands out, not blends in (everyone was taught that they're special which is simply a lie), and take a job for example, if you don't get the job and were "second best", you still lost -- you don't get a consolation job to be the second winner, you failed. Failure isn't inherently bad. It's supposed to teach a lesson, that's how you ultimately succeed after failure. This was reflected with grades where in order to fail in school you had to work just as hard for your F as you did your A. This type of coddling helped breed spoiled kids who have little initiative, think they're owed things without working hard, or harder than others.

Rest assured this is not the mentality my daughter will be raised with. Earning things, i.e. the initiative to go out and "do" or "accomplish" to me is extremely important, just as important as love, and as compassion.



I'm confused about contradiction, she's saying Gen Y has too many lazy people with embellished sense of ego and entitlement, quite the opposite of "not reaching for goals", and certainly nowhere near the straw man of parents needing to be jerks to their children.

Anyhow, I doubt people will see the underlying message, as this type of introspective criticism (of self and own generation) is generally not well received by most.

The irony is on a quantum scale and looking at the big picture. Everyone is special and unique. There will never be another you, because you would somehow have to clone or copy time.
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@Rat
I know I'm just that awesome. Your brain doesn't know what to think.

Keep digging that hole.

That definition is what she has a problem with. Why? No useful results.

"Hello, I would like to get this job because I'm special and unique. I don't need to prove why I'm the best for the job, there's simply no others like me therefore I deserve it. "

^ Article, in a nutshell.

You are not unique just because there's no others like you. That is one of the essential elements of what helps produce people who think they are entitled to things and don't know how to handle when reality hits them that their "specialness" is really facade, and results are far more often than not from hard work and initiative than entitlement.

No one said being unique and special was awesome job qualifier. Some of the smartest men have been turned down from being professors because their [censored]s. I personally think there's a gigantic disconnect in this thread.

There are people who actually think people are dumb enough to put this and only this on their resume "Hello, I would like to get this job because I'm special and unique. I don't need to prove why I'm the best for the job, there's simply no others like me therefore I deserve it." I honestly think you should give people some more credit here than that. Sure maybe a few outliers, but I seriously doubt the majority of younger people have that or similar things on their resume. Your selling people short, and stroking your ego's. You honestly think your THAT much smarter than them? Really? Hahahah! So to make yourselve sfeel smart you come to this forum and complain about the younger generation, and then try to sell me a bridge to terabithia by saying these young people have zero things to put on their resume? That they are incapable of thinking of said resume?

Get off your damn horses. You mock the very foundaiton of thought with such a preposterous presumptions. Why I ought to go and start calling all old people geezers who will NEVER learn anything new again because they've already learned everything they have to. Or other broad sweeping generalizations that have no basis in reality.

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If this was the truth then most of these people would qualify as mentally [censored] on multiple types of intelligence tests.

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@Ratslayer
Waaahhhh got ya. Standard messages huh. So who's going to inform the mods this time? Me or you? You remind me of some bad Bond villain "You'll rue this day Gamgee, I'll get you and your little dog too!".

I'm all for ridiculing people who can't stop living in the past, but that's not what the article is about. Maybe you shouldn't comment on something that's too long for you to read.

But yeah, the article points out some flaws in our generation. But there are always flaws in every generation, and human beings will never get it right because we've strayed too far.

Same here, except when I went to sprinkle on some depression, the lid fell off and a little too much got on there and I just said [censored] it and left it like that.

But I dream...

This article is clearly very sarcastic and has a lot of self-irony in it.

(And it's 1-2 years old)

Shhh... don't let them know. I'm having some fun here.

Obviously you're letting emotion get in the way of an interesting discussion.

When I pointed out that line in quotes it was not to be taken literally, just like the article isn't supposed to be, obviously you swung and missed big time. There's a point to it, which shouldn't be poo-poo'd off because of it's lack of convenience. Several jobs of mine I've helped sort thru resumes to hire people (even helping both of my sisters try and find jobs) and ironically the way Gen Y (which is starting to turn 30 now) approaches essential parts of life such as a job merits the type of attention it gets, even if it doesn't have a convenient ring for you. There are indeed far too many spoiled rotten people in this generation (it isn't even the newest generation -- the person who writes it was born likely ~ 1985-1988 judging by when they graduated), which ended with the new millennium, and certainly I'm with the writer that it needs to change. While I cannot control how others do it, I can certainly control how I raise my daughter, and entitlement is not one of those ways it's going to be done.

Learning things about yourself, or others somewhat similar, isn't always dished out in a convenient way. I like the fact that this person does not walk on eggshells with their opinion, and the way they present it at times is somewhat full of irony and sarcasm.

You put too much thought into me gamgee. It must sadden you to know this isnt a mutual feeling. I dont really think of you, at all really.

You've given up before you've even started. "He who fears losing, has already lost." I like that line, I read it in a game of thrones. I understand being realistic, but being so down about life is never good.

I personally plan on enjoying my life, finding someone to share it with and seeing what happens. I'm 19, no need to hate the world yet.

Yes, you're right, it's not that it's a dull, self indulgent load of crap by a narcissistic [censored], it's that it was too long for my primitive brain to understand

Purge the majority of the generation, condemn the good ones because there are so many bad ones? It's a lot like the teacher in school who punishes the entire class because of 2-3 kids. Completely unfair and biased. I don't see a total societal collapse imminent because of Generation Y, jobs are still being filled. I see no immenent demise. Not to mention all this generaiton concept is so full of [censored]. The human mind is maleable, generations are a convenient way for corporations to sell or try and sell things. People put too much emphasis on the generation, and not the individual. It's a form of ageism. Generations are very loose, and your only defined by them if you choose. What are you telling Gen-Y now? Instead of positive reinforcment, your going the negative route. If you focus too much on the negative it defines them more than their good traits. Uh oh, your a free loading Gen-Y. According to your own arguments, you should be as mentally incapable of the rest of us. So now I'll go and communicate like I should be. How stupid knowing how to write stuff.

arrr durrrrrrrr neeeed foood, beeeg fooor fuuud. HOW I WREITEEEEEEEE WARDSSS!? *falls asleep because is apparently lazy* GIVE ME JOB NAAAOOO!!!!

Accurate enough? I personally think its a good thing that companies have to shut the [censored] up and play ball on a social rights level. They've been able to squash individual rights a little too easily in the past. We're seeing it now, corporations afraid of a society as interconencted as gen-y.

Also as an aside, I've noticed whenever someone brings up emotions with me they're on the losing side of the debate. They have no FACTS, so they begin to whine at me. All the time.

It wasn't, she was being sarcastic. She was bemoaning the people who say "Nobody is special" whilst inwardly thinking "except me".

I am being realistic. My mother for example is a nurse. She likes the job. Well she did and still does sometimes. But even a job you love, you will still end up hating it for some reason. For exmple, my mother hates having to do so much paperwork for legal reasons, instead of actuallly looking after the patients. She hates how incompitent management is, how some people she works with dont pull their weight. Im sure there are other reasons I dont know about.

You will still put up with the job, despite hating it. Becuase you need the income. Thats how life will work, only a vey small amount of people can do what they enjoy and make a living off it. Most people will likely choose income over happiness. Others may choose a job that pays less, but they find it less soul crushing than a better paying job. Your most likely damned either way.

Yeah, idiot!

Sarcasm in "journalism" is self indulgent.

Sarcasm in general is self indulgent.

Damnit turns, you had to ruin it. This thread would have been less entertaining, if more people understood sarcasm.

Fair enough, I can see what you're saying. It's something that has kept me up many a night, but for now I've decided to stop pondering over my future. I have had a less than conventional path through life, so I can't really compare myself to someone who's been through the passage of conventional education and come out the other side with a degree and no idea what's next.

Note the 'self indulgent crap' part.