Can't we all agree that this is a great game and stop complaining (when I say complaining I mean, I get on forums and see about 3 pages of complaints about how the magic system is "broken".)

People need to just enjoy the game for what it is, not hate it for what it is not.

Thing is, for some people whining is their bread and butter. Pretty much the main reason they even log in. So no, while it'd be nice for some common ground to be found it's not gonna happen.

okay, wow, that was inflammatory and unecessary.

while there are people who love to troll and complain about everything. the problem with the magic system is a legitimate complaint. Most of the people complaining about have a right to as it is a glaring flaw in the game's design.

we're complaining about it because we want bethesda to acknowledge its existence. We keep bringing it up because so far Beth has done nothing to even do that.

all Beth has to do for now is just say

"okay, we get it, there's a major flaw here, sorry, we're going to fix it at some point."

that's all I want right now.

It's called "feedback." If it truly offends you, think about it this way: everything you love about the game has been influenced by positive and negative feedback provided by players from the last few games of the series. It's how developers learn from their mistakes and even from their partial successes.

Even if it comes in the form of a Rant, remember that these criticisms always still comes froma place love. Tough love, whiney baby love, even disfunctional co-dependant love, but love all the same.

thank you, you did a far better job of stating that then I or the other poster did

I give most of these people the same benefit of doubt you do. Most people, even in rude and ungrateful tones, want the best, most reasonable experience for themselves and others. But Its just so hard to get along with and understand their standpoints when it comes off in that unnecessary cynical manner.

Of course it comes off cynical, because the moment you try to raise a concern your railroaded and flamed for not liking every nook and cranny of the game. and Ungrateful? lol its not like these players have not payed their dues, they PAID for the game not get it from a charity event. if they see something wrong that they don't like they have a right to bring it up. however it isn't anyones place to tell them they are wrong or call them Idiots as I've seen embroyder these Boards lately, I swear it never fails and its always the BDF bashing "complainers" always.

Please don't try to incite a flame war.

Complaints sound like the complaints you hear on a MMO board. Seems like balancing is what peoplle really care about.