Can I please just smith arrows?

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:22 pm

Every game has limitations. Some are easier to understand than others. My bet is that each arrow is an item, and the crafting protocol can only create a single item rather than a stack. So instead of giving you the ability to craft a single arrow, they just took it off the list.

Yeah, no. For anyone still thinking this, please observe:

http://img277.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58232_Arrow_Crafting_122_545lo.jpg

For those of you on the consoles or on the PC but just not familiar with the Creation Kit, the key take away from the picture is the "Created Object Count" text field in the upper right of the contructible object window. It's a simple edit to change that from only 1 item like with most armor and weapon crafting into multiple objects such as you'd want for a stack of arrows as I've done here.

That took me about 2 minutes to create the needed crafting recipe to allow you to make Dwarven arrows, it'd take another 5 minutes or so to add in the rest of the materials for Arrow Crafting all the rest. So time is not the issue here, for whatever reason the design of Skyrim in the base game means you cannot craft arrows.
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Susan Elizabeth
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:06 pm

Id say it's for balance, pretty sure they wanted arrows to be sort of rare so it makes sense... Lame but logical. Would still be nice to be a Fletcher on the consoles.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:53 am

Rare lol? They are anything but.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:00 am

Id say it's for balance, pretty sure they wanted arrows to be sort of rare so it makes sense... Lame but logical. Would still be nice to be a Fletcher on the consoles.

Um... yeah, what game have you been playing?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:30 am

That's all you want in life?
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Naazhe Perezz
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:29 pm

So if the game is incapable of allowing us to craft multiple items at once, why is it that I can turn one piece of leather into four leather strips?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:48 pm

Um... yeah, what game have you been playing?

Todd did state that they wanted Archery in Skyrim to be alot more powerful than it was in Oblivion (Which it is), but they wanted arrows to be rarer to compensate for it. Apparently, he meant high end arrows. Iron, Steel, Forsworn, and Draugr Arrows are common as hell. The high end Arrows though, like Daedric, are rare as [censored]. Hence the OP stating that having to dive into a Dwemer Ruin and killing the Steam Centurion for even a small chance at Daedric Arrows is bull [censored].
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:22 pm

Todd did state that they wanted Archery in Skyrim to be alot more powerful than it was in Oblivion (Which it is), but they wanted arrows to be rarer to compensate for it. Apparently, he meant high end arrows. Iron, Steel, Forsworn, and Draugr Arrows are common as hell. The high end Arrows though, like Daedric, are rare as [censored]. Hence the OP stating that having to dive into a Dwemer Ruin and killing the Steam Centurion for even a small chance at Daedric Arrows is bull [censored].
Thank you for doing you're homework, glad i'm not the only one before passing judgement. :whistling:
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:07 am

Todd did state that they wanted Archery in Skyrim to be alot more powerful than it was in Oblivion (Which it is), but they wanted arrows to be rarer to compensate for it. Apparently, he meant high end arrows. Iron, Steel, Forsworn, and Draugr Arrows are common as hell. The high end Arrows though, like Daedric, are rare as [censored]. Hence the OP stating that having to dive into a Dwemer Ruin and killing the Steam Centurion for even a small chance at Daedric Arrows is bull [censored].

And he didn't make it apparent.

Nor does it matter since Archery, especially Stealth Archery, is easy no matter what kind of arrows you have.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:19 am

And he didn't make it apparent.

Nor does it matter since Archery, especially Stealth Archery, is easy no matter what kind of arrows you have.
Compare the frequency of getting arrows in loot in Oblivion to the same as in Skyrim even in the low tier arrows there's a huge difference. Yes they do tons of damage no one here is denying that, that's why they wanted to make arrows sort of rare not to the point of "holy freaking poo i only have ten arrows to get through this cave" rare, but just to the point where the high end arrows would make you think about taking risky shots and make you dig in the fields for those stray shots you missed.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:27 pm

There is a way around the lack of high end arrows though
Spoiler
If your in the thieves guild you can pick pocket the arrows off all others in the cistern(spelling?) and replace them with one of what ever you want.
Or
Give your companion the arrow(just one) of your choosing and they will have an endless supply.
I like to call this arrow farming.
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But I was a little let down to find out that I can't craft my own arrows.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:04 pm

Compare the frequency of getting arrows in loot in Oblivion to the same as in Skyrim even in the low tier arrows there's a huge difference. Yes they do tons of damage no one here is denying that, that's why they wanted to make arrows sort of rare not to the point of "holy freaking poo i only have ten arrows to get through this cave" rare, but just to the point where the high end arrows would make you think about taking risky shots and make you dig in the fields for those stray shots you missed.

That never happened to me before and I played a pure Stealth Archer. Only bought arrows a few times, almost always had 50-100 arrows on me of various types.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:55 am

You should be able to it really is a mystery why Bethesda did not put this in.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:51 am

You should be able to it really is a mystery why Bethesda did not put this in.

DLC.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:10 am

DLC.

Makes sense, or maybe another freebee in a patch.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:09 pm

I would love it but?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:45 am

A mechanic would have to be introduced that allowed Stack Crafting, other wise making arrows would become real tedious real fast.

There is stack crafting, has anyone ever crafted gold or silver rings? They give you two per gold ingot... Could work the same way with arrows, but you'd have to introduce another item to be needed for arrow crafting cos it's simply not just metal.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:48 pm

There is stack crafting, has anyone ever crafted gold or silver rings? They give you two per gold ingot... Could work the same way with arrows, but you'd have to introduce another item to be needed for arrow crafting cos it's simply not just metal.

Firewood.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:54 pm

for loop?

for(int i=0; i pc_add_to_inventory(arrow_fabricator());

There's at least two flaws in your code ...
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:44 am

And he didn't make it apparent.

Nor does it matter since Archery, especially Stealth Archery, is easy no matter what kind of arrows you have.

It wasn't exactly apparent when he first stated it, but after the game launched and people were seeing how plentiful the low grade arrows were, then discovered how rare the high end arrows were, that's when it became apparent what he meant.
But yeah, the problem with stealth sniping is that it does 3x the damage of the bow, while not multiplying the damage with the arrows. So higher end arrows don't really matter with sneak attacks, only a couple points more of damage. Problem is though, that if the arrows multiplied in damage as well as the bow during a sneak attack, then sneak sniping would be even more OP than it already is.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:31 am

What beths excuse on not including this in the game?

The same reason some brain drainer at Bethesda thought that only melee users needed executions.

"I know we'll give really nice slow-mo kills on swords and other weapons, hmmmm magic and archery don't need that however....... They have spell crafting and arrow smithing and arrow enchanting to make up for it, ohhhhh wait....."
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:27 am

There's at least two flaws in your code ...
:cool:

no.

and besides it doesn't even matter since it is a two liner posted on a meaningless thread in a forum noone cares about...
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:06 pm

no.

and besides it doesn't even matter since it is a two liner posted on a meaningless thread in a forum noone cares about...
And you're here because???
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:08 pm

Every game has limitations. Some are easier to understand than others. My bet is that each arrow is an item, and the crafting protocol can only create a single item rather than a stack. So instead of giving you the ability to craft a single arrow, they just took it off the list.


Nope. I've made a fletching mod myself, which allows you to create arrows from scratch (including daedric) in bundles of 30 (from one each of ingot, firewood and feathers), or to "upgrade" 25 low-level arrows to 20 higher-level ones, again in bundles of 25. I would suggest that, with archery being so powerful, the devs felt that balance was better served by keeping arrows in relatively short supply - at least the good ones. Will it be a DLC? Probably - but equally probably a free one.
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