Can you Kill Karliah? : V

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:48 pm

I very much want Karliah's armor, but I also want the Skeleton Key, my only fear is if I let her live too long she'll become essential and I won't be able to loot her sweat gear. So, my question is, can she be killed, and secondly does she at any point in the Thieves Guild questline become essential?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:24 pm

She gives you her bow & and you get a set of nightingale armor without killing her. Also she doesn't have the skeleton key, Mercer does.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:40 pm

Even if you can't kill her, can you at least stuff a sock in her mouth? Use duct tape? Rip out her vocal chords? Her voice is irritating.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:07 am

I want the best looking unenchanted light armor in the game because I know my own enchantments trump the nightingale gear, Karliah just happens to be the unfortunate owner of such a set. Also, it seems like you have a choice between Mercer and Karliah at a certain point in the quest, I wasn't sure if backing Karliah and progressing far enough into the questline to get the Skeleton Key would make her essential (for completing the questline) and therefor unkillable.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:22 am

She's always essential. No armor for you.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:27 am

Console Commands are the only option.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:06 am

Seriously? What an enormous let down. You PC kids have all the luck.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:26 am

There is no choice to back Mercer.

The nightingale enchantments see pretty sweet, the head gear you could do better but the chest and hands would be hard to top.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:24 pm

So that is confirmed no go on 86'ing Karliah?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:44 pm

So that is confirmed no go on 86'ing Karliah?

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Also, I take it Reverse Pickpocketting is out? Will I have to get the Master Pickpock perk to get the armor or am I completely borked?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:50 am

So that is confirmed no go on 86'ing Karliah?

See:

She's always essential. No armor for you.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:29 am

Like everyone else has said no killing Karliah unless you're on pc and use console commands. The Nightengale armor you get is pretty useful and I actually liked Karliah as opposed to a LOT of the characters you interact with in Skyrim.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:18 am

I was just wanted a confirmation, no need to run me out of the forums on a board. Also, is it possible to steal the armor with the master level pickpocket perk?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:36 pm

I was just wanting a confirmation, no need to run me out of the forums on a board. Also, is it possible to steal the armor with the master level pickpocket perk?

Nope you can not pickpocket armor/clothing off of esential chracters in the game.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:31 pm

What fun. Ah well, thanks for the responses. Don't suppose she has it in her inventory when she switches to the Nightingale Armor? I'm grasping at straws, I know, but I REALLY want that armor!

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:34 pm

What fun. Ah well, thanks for the responses. Don't suppose she has it in her inventory when she switches to the Nightingale Armor? I'm grasping at straws, I know, but I REALLY want that armor!

I doubt that she gets rid of it. It's merely a matter of whether or not it's marked as playable at that point.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:57 pm

I hadn't even considered whether or not it would be flagged as playable. Yikes.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:01 pm

I was just in her inventory when she was not wearing the armor it did not even show up for me, so apperently it can not be taken from her. I also went to the "QA smoke" test room which contains everything in the game that a player can use without cheats and did not see a non enchanted set of Nightingale armor so that would leave me to think that with out PC mods it would not be playable.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:06 am

Well, I guess I can lay this one to rest then. Thank you all for the assistance!

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:49 am

Even if you can't kill her, can you at least stuff a sock in her mouth? Use duct tape? Rip out her vocal chords? Her voice is irritating.

She has the sweetest voice in game.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:46 pm

This is the kinda thing that makes me wish you could dis-enchant weapons and armor. As an example, if you don't have the enchantment off an item it destroys the item and you gain the spell effect as one you can custom enchant on your own gear (as the system currently works), but if you already have the spell effect you could simply remove the enchantment, making it open to custom enchantments. Seriously, how flipping cool would be it to be able to clear all the enchantments off of something like Nightingale Armor or the Guild Master's Armor and put your own enchantments in their place?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:40 am

on a side note, her voice is terrible. She must be the daughter or mother in law of one of the programmers, surely not a paid actress. I have thought about killing her several times...not for her armor.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:25 am

on a side note, her voice is terrible. She must be the daughter or mother in law of one of the programmers, surely not a paid actress. I have thought about killing her several times...not for her armor.

Her VA is Moira Quirk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvaqPO3v8LI

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:47 pm

She has the sweetest voice in game.

Yeah, I thought she was one of the better ones in Skyrim. Whoever does Farengar can sound pretty horrid at times, though.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:42 pm

Her VA is Moira Quirk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvaqPO3v8LI

Yeh programmers daughter. case closed. thanks for your help in clearing that up.