Cannot Complete Joining the Stormcloaks or Season Unending

Post » Sun May 20, 2012 12:08 pm

Just so everyone knows, this might contain spoilers, but I can't figure out how to do a spoiler tag. If someone could help me out with that, it would be great, thanks.




So this is one of the few MAJOR problems I've encountered with Skyrim (the other being with the Blood on The Ice quest, but eh). First, a bit of back story so everyone fully understands the problem.

I picked up Joining the Stormcloaks, but never really felt like bothering to kill the Ice Wraith at Serpentstone Isle. So it simply sat in my Journal and I went on my merry way, completing various other quests and following the main quest from time to time. Eventually, however, I picked up Season Unending, so I took myself to Windhelm to smack Ulfric into going to High Hrothgar for the peace council.

However, when I got there and tried talking to him, I wasn't given the option to tell him about the council. Instead, Ulfric kept saying "Gamal gave you something to do. So go do it!" every time I tried speaking to him. Irritated, I finally went out to Serpentstone Isle, killed the Ice Wraith, and returned to claim my spot as a Storrmcloak.

When I got back, Gamal and Ulfric were discussing something called the Jagged Crown, which Ulfric then said he would send me with Gamal to retrieve it. I thought "sure cool whatever" and went to talk to Ulfric after the whole discussion was over. Again, though, I wasn't able to actually speak to Ulfric. Now he was saying "Talk to Gamal, he has something for you to do" or something along those lines, idr off-hand. Growing irritated once more I went to talk to Gamal...and all HE says is "I can't believe you convinced Ulfric to talk to the Empire. Seems more like a waste of time" or something like that. You can imagine my frustration at this because I never had the CHANCE to talk to Ulfric about the damn council, so why does the game seem to assume I did? Under the quest list "Talk to Ulfric" is still not complete for Season Unending, so I can't figure out why the heck the game seems to think I've talked to him about the council.

I can only think of two things to fix this. One would be to go back WAAAAAY before I even picked up Season Unending and complete Joining the Stormcloaks before picking up Season Unending. The only problem with that is everything I'll have to go through again, which I REALLY don't feel like doing, and at the moment it's not really a viable option for me. The other thing is maybe going to get the Jagged Crown and see if maybe I can complete Joining the Stormcloaks without talking to Gamal about it. Of course it probably won't work, but I'm willing to give it a shot and see if it'll fix things.

In the likely event that I cannot go get the Jagged Crown without speaking to Gamal first, is there anything else I can do other than restarting from before getting Season Unending and playing through God only knows how much content all over again? I mean this isn't just some random side-quest this is holding up; it's the main quest I can't complete, on top of a side-quest. I love Skyrim but this is quickly putting me off playing just because it's such an annoying bug.

Also, about the Blood on the Ice quest...I can't get Jorlif or whatever his name is to give me any information on the murder, and when I try to investigate the murder scene nothing happens. I assume I can still continue the quest by finding the mage and stuff, right? Not too concerned about that but figured I'd ask here real quick instead of making another thread about it.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 5:33 am

Well I can't read what you posted. Probably because I'm.on.mobile.

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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 5:23 am

Good morning,

I have not run into the exact same glitch you are seeing but I have seen a couple issues with this situation in general - it is pretty easy to get both "joining stormcloaks" and "season unending" at the same time if you start the former and never finish it.


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If you can load a save game before you turn in "kill the ice wraith" you could try declining the oath when asked to take it, if you haven't tried that yet, which should prevent the start of the jaggal crown quest. If that doesn't work but you can find a way to complete the jaggal crown, that should also fix your issue and allow you to progress.

Finally, if you can't take the oath and can't start jaggal crown at all because both Ulfric and the General are glitched, there is still a chance you could visit the imperial commander in Solitude, do his task to join the legion (which auto fails "join the storm cloaks" if it is stuck in your journal)- and if you are a true stormcloak at heart you can follow his troops to get the jaggal crown and return it to Ulfric anyway. Or return it to the legion, whichever. Point being, if you're real interest is fixing season unending you should be able to force the quest to progress by solving the outstanding civil war quest.

You should note, you cannot complete the later civil war quests once you have begin arranging the truce - until after completing "season unending", of course.

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