Am I not supposed to join the college at a low level? Because I did, and now, a few quests in I'm in a dwemer ruin, and I'm getting my ass handed to me. Even if I turn down the difficulty, it's still near impossible to properly fight and defeat all the enemies there. That, or a pure mage without weapons isn't a viable option, which is of course infinitely worse than not playing the college at low level.

Also, concerning that same ruin, a key is needed to enter the last area. I've been through the ruin three times (an incredibly boring ruin, imo), and have not found a single key, save the one you get right after you enter to open the first door.

I realize few people have the game, and of that small percentage, only a few will probably have started the "mages guild", but I have to ask about the key, because it's starting to annoy me.

i'm pretty sure the game isn't released until Friday so you are either talking BS or have a pirated copy, which you probably shouldn't flag up on the official forums. In answer to your questions, try using different spell combos, or going on different quests to level up a bit.

When will ppl understand that some shops in some countries already sell Skyrim...

Edit: Do some quests and level up, get some new spells and go back

And no good questline should be beatable at a low level. You must be actually powerful in drorder to do great things.. GO to another questline and level up there.

Shops selling/handing out copies of Skyrim early is not pirating.

Remember, it's not the customer's fault for buying a legal copy early. To blame the customer is bad business. The merchant is to blame.

exactly! i have the game since yesterday morning (PC) and i have been playing it at a friend on his xbox! have to admit that i can't wait to see if pc graphics are even better!

The game is a lot harder than Oblivion when you're comparing difficulty levels. Alteration and restoration have been my 2 best friends as a mage so far. That and kiting around enemies or just running away.

Anyway I haven't been to the ruin you described yet unless it's the first dungeon as a mage but that didn't have a key so I can't really help you.

I do the same. Though I also conjure an atronach, combined with armor upgrade and that shielding spell. After that it's mostly hit and run, but in that dungeon, at my level, it just didn't work. And it indeed is quite a bit harder than Oblivion, but considering the mages guild is pretty basic, I didn't find my question so strange, as other might have suggested.

And you'll get to that part pretty fast, only small stuff in between, should you find it, could you please contact me? I still haven't found it, I reloaded another safe just to be sure it wasn't some bug. Though I'm going to do some other stuff first, I really didn't like that ruin.

the mages guild is not exactly near where you begin! do those quests first! do some dungeons around the starting area! level up get better gear! better destruction spell and warding and then you will pew pew it easily

And yet people were already telling me while I was in Riverwood to go to the college... Strange. But I went back there, I'll see how it goes. Still hoping for a replay on that key though.

I was reading some another persons experiences with the game so far and though not a direct answer to your "key" question, it seems that this other player had to complete a different questline to obtain a "strange key" that would open a door somewhere. Reading between the lines, I'd say that that door is apart of a quest you do not have yet. You need to ask around until you find another quest for that ruin.

I doubt that, considering I'm in the dwemer ruin for a college (mages guild) quest...