Its been said before, but I'll just say that Crysis 1 survived. And so will Crysis 2. Because Pc graphics will never be beaten by a $200.00 gaming machine with the fire power of 9500 GT versus a GTX460 at the same price or double.

I suppose that if one sees since in the gameplays it will not be so bad either.

Though I prefer buying it for 360 because in my computer it is possible that it goes slowly. Are requirements known already?

There are no official Specs for C2 so far.
And for the so called console forums... omg.. forget all the consolekiddy-fan-gibberish.
All they own and know are consoles. Mostly no one of these guys know how strong actual Pc hardware is. If they could see how a modded Crysis 1 looks on my Hd Tv they would instantly fall into a coma.

But as it has been posted many times before:

Crysis 2:
Grfx on consoles:
The best result for each console.
But nowhere near Crysis 1 on PC.

For Pc:
by far far far the best.
And not compareable to consoles.

Crysis 1:
Still not possible on consoles.

Maybe the best looking PC game until Crysis 2 for PC arrives.

And for the so called console forums... omg.. forget all the consolekiddy-fan-gibberish.
All they own and know are consoles. Mostly no one of these guys know how strong actual Pc hardware is. Don't be so stereo-typically pessimistic. I've always owned consoles, ever since the NES (was too poor for an Atari 2600 at the time). I currently own a 360 and a PS3. I'm also the sole-trader owner of a small business that builds custom PC's. Most of my PC gamer mates also own consoles and do play them frequently.

Consoles have their own place in the world and excel in their own areas. To compare consoles to PC's is to compare a Ford Taurus to a Ferrari F355. One does not often take into consideration the price, the fuel, the insurance, the comfort, the noise, chance of theft, etc, of a Ferrari. It's just automatically better in all areas because it's a Ferrari, which is wrong. The constant badgering from PC elitists who likely don't even own a console themselves is quite old and unnecessary. If you can't accept them for what they are then ignore them.

There is a difference, Shin.

PC gamers usually do own and play consoles. I have a PS3 too, as well as a Wii.

PC's are for immersive games. Solo game experiences that you cannot get on a console. Even some PC titles have began to employ split screen abilities, like in Left 4 Dead 2. Both players could use gamepads, or keyboards and mice, or a mix of the two.

Consoles are for playing with friends though since they are made to support that aesthetic. Most console titles these days are made with more than one player in mind these days.

Consoles gamers, however, do not own PC's that are capable of running the latest games and generally just aren't interested in PC gaming for whatever reason. These are the types that fall into all of the rumors that it costs too much and what not, without actually doing any research themselves.

Two distinct worlds.... PC gamers are usually the most knowledgeable in regards to both because they are more likely to own both a PC capable of playing most of the latest games and one ore more consoles.

PC's are for immersive games. Solo game experiences that you cannot get on a console. Any examples? I can think of a tonne of decent single player games that are available on console.

Consoles gamers, however, do not own PC's that are capable of running the latest games and generally just aren't interested in PC gaming for whatever reason. Based off what statistics? You're telling me you have no friends that own both a gaming PC and a console? Aren't you yourself the owner of a decent gaming PC and PS3/Wii?

PC gamers are usually the most knowledgeable in regards to both because they are more likely to own both a PC capable of playing most of the latest games Being in the business of building custom PC's for people who are semi-clued in on PC hardware and gaming, i can tell you that most of them aren't as knowledgeable on hardware as you suggest. That is after all what made my services so appealing as i would design and build a system that would suit their needs, not just hand them a PDF pricelist and tell them to hit submit when they're done. Owning the latest CPU and GPU doesn't at all signify that you know computer hardware like the back of your hand.

Either way, this has gone off topic as we're not even talking about the graphics quality of Crysis 2 on consoles anymore. So my bad for assisting in the derailment. At the end of the day i think we should have faith in Crytek to deliver an awesome experience on all 3 platforms. 360 owners, PS3 owners, PC owners, everyone's gunna love it, that i'm sure of.

@ Shin

I was referring to the guys in the spanish console forum who talked about Crysis 2 on console will look better than crysis 1 Pc.

So if youre into the hardware selling business...
You probably can understand why most Pc players are frustrated these days.
We buy very expensive hardware to get the full potential of a game and what do we get to play? Mostly consolized and technically reactionary casual games.
And the main problem is that consoles get more and more important because Pc gaming is not supported by the major companies anymore. Which is very very sad. Crytek was the last hope for many pc gamers... the only hope now is for crysis 2 being not a bad console - port instead of hoping to be a great successor. Because there are no good multiplatform games period.

I own a 360 and a few games for it...(because i just cant afford to buy 3 games @ once that would cost more than the whole console!!!)
I build Pcs for a long time now..for myself and my friends... i started in 1989.
So for i for myself can say i have "some" knowledge about hardware.
But some 13-17 year old kids in a console forum are probably inexperienced when it comes to hardware. And these kinda players are ruining the image of every console gamer by saying such stupid crap like "Ps3 is/ will be the best".

With a HDMI cable do the graphs of the Crysis 2 improve enough?. Because I was thinking to bought one and not if it is worth it. Not only for this game if not for the rest also.

Thanks to all

Hdmi cables can improve the picture quality.
And the selectable resolution. ( Scart is not capable of 1080P)
But to really see a difference u must use a Hdtv.

Crysis 2 on consoles will have a ton of tech that the original didn't, so it'll beat it there.

We buy very expensive hardware to get the full potential of a game and what do we get to play? Mostly consolized and technically reactionary casual games. Sure but the end result is mostly up to the developer. Consoles are very weak in their hardware compared to PC today but they do have one advantage; they're static. For games developed on PC, developers have no clue as to what their audience's hardware setup is and as such, they can't tailor the game specifically to that hardware setup to get the most out of it. This is what developers mean when they're talking about "getting the most out of the system". Why do some games only load my GPU to 60%? Why do some games only load my CPU to 30% on one thread? Hello PC.

With the console platform, they know exactly what hardware they've got and can optimise the game to get maximum resources out of the hardware. They get the CPU running 90%+ and the GPU running 90%+ and it results in a decent amount of horsepower. Think of it like a full X1900 in a console or half of a 3870 in a PC; the result is they're fairly similar. I think Forza 3 is a prime example of how console horsepower can be squeezed out of a game to incredible feats. Take a look at how Turn10 improved the graphics of Forza3 over Forza2 on the same hardware. This is optimisation brilliance, to the point where they introduced 2xAA whilst racing: http://www.xboxlivenetwork.com/2009/08/forza-3-to-forza-2-graphic-comparison.html

What i'm getting at is that i really don't think consoles "dumb down" the market as much as people think. I think if anything, consoles help the market, specifically exampled in Crytek's case. When Crytek attempted to put CE2 on consoles they realised how inefficient it was which lead them to optimising it to a point where it became a whole new engine - CE3. What's the result? For PC users, we get a more graphically advanced version of CE2 with nearly twice the frame rate. Console users get probably the most graphically advanced game on their platform to date. I say "booyah" to that!

That article states that Stereo 3D might be possible on any display, but wouldn't you still need a display that's compatible with the glasses?

Well said Shinanigans, I also say "booyah" to that Optimisation on performance and graphics is what Crytek are doing for us PC gamers, im glad for that. And Im still just amazed at how Crytek will be running their CryEngine 3 on consoles, its gonna be awesome.

And @ perleffekt, it says that 3D will require a dedicated 120 Hz LCD monitor. Unfortunately my 60Hz laptop monitor wont cut it

I fully agree with the shift to consoles as well, even though i do not own one myself.
it means crytek will have more money when it comes to Crysis 3 and extensions, and the engine will provide excellent graphics at high frame rates and because its designed to run flawlessly on consoles, so PC will be great to play.
The graphics in Warhead were stunning, and Crysis 2 IS better, plus it will have more physics, better AI, AND smoother gameplay.
If you want more then that, your pretty much asking for an interactive action movie.
Crytek knows what thier doing, and i have no doubt the end result will be amazing.
+1 to Shinanigins btw

I fully agree with the shift to consoles as well, even though i do not own one myself.
it means crytek will have more money when it comes to Crysis 3 and extensions, and the engine will provide excellent graphics at high frame rates and because its designed to run flawlessly on consoles, so PC will be great to play.
The graphics in Warhead were stunning, and Crysis 2 IS better, plus it will have more physics, better AI, AND smoother gameplay.
If you want more then that, your pretty much asking for an interactive action movie.
Crytek knows what thier doing, and i have no doubt the end result will be amazing.
+1 to Shinanigins btw

I agree in what you believe for Pc's that is. And the hope for the game to reach Crysis 3

Well said Shinanigans, I also say "booyah" to that Optimisation on performance and graphics is what Crytek are doing for us PC gamers, im glad for that. And Im still just amazed at how Crytek will be running their CryEngine 3 on consoles, its gonna be awesome.

And @ perleffekt, it says that 3D will require a dedicated 120 Hz LCD monitor. Unfortunately my 60Hz laptop monitor wont cut it
"Instead of rendering each picture twice (half the framerate!) and projecting it on a dedicated 120 Hz LCD monitor, Crytek simply uses the back buffer and the depth information in the graphics card: The renderred frame is practically being cloned and the fractum shift procedure makes two out of it. Thus, on the one hand there is nearly no performance drop and on the other hand stereoscopic 3D might be possible on any display - no matter if it's on PC or consoles. Crytek calls this technology 'Screen Space Re-Projection Stereo'."

Maybe they were just saying that the stereoscopic image could be rendered on any display and not that you could get the 3D effect.

Indeed, this is what i have read. I have been waiting for confirmation for months!

BOOHAY for sure....

I don`t know anything about hardware pc,ps3,xbox and i put 60+ hours every week into gaming so i do know what looks good or not (from my point of view) And the games are looking better and better each month on my ps3, All the latest games are released on consoles so the statement of "i have a top end pc so i can play all the latest games" is not valid.

The main issue i see at my friends that are pc players is the slow progress in new games when you compare it whit the latest hardware.
A few years back it was mainly the gaming industry that pushed the hardware and that`s shifted towards the consoles.
Now is that a good thing or bad thing?
My opinion is that its not good from a gamers point of view, yes some console players do want to see proggress in games...The fact that there is not a huge difference in games anymore will not convince microsoft and playstation to change there strategy in any way.

Graphics in consoles are getting better whit the same hardware, outdated or not.
Are the graphics good enough for smooth gameplay is whats most important for me and the awser is 100% yes.
That 3d stuff looks amazing and on any display would be awesome.HOOK ME UP

BOOHAY for sure....

I don`t know anything about hardware pc,ps3,xbox and i put 60+ hours every week into gaming so i do know what looks good or not (from my point of view) And the games are looking better and better each month on my ps3, All the latest games are released on consoles so the statement of "i have a top end pc so i can play all the latest games" is not valid.

The main issue i see at my friends that are pc players is the slow progress in new games when you compare it whit the latest hardware.
A few years back it was mainly the gaming industry that pushed the hardware and that`s shifted towards the consoles.
Now is that a good thing or bad thing?
My opinion is that its not good from a gamers point of view, yes some console players do want to see proggress in games...The fact that there is not a huge difference in games anymore will not convince microsoft and playstation to change there strategy in any way.

Graphics in consoles are getting better whit the same hardware, outdated or not.
Are the graphics good enough for smooth gameplay is whats most important for me and the awser is 100% yes.
That 3d stuff looks amazing and on any display would be awesome.HOOK ME UP

....Sorry dude, but start checking out the PC versions of multiplatform titles. They look WAAAAY better than anything on consoles.

Then with PC exclusive titles that push the latest PC hardware, there really is no comparison. Metro 2033 with DirectX 11 makes the consoles look extremely out-dated.... because they are.

Do you even know how powerful the latest computer hardware is compared to console hardware? Let's just say that the top of the line latest PC has as much as 10 times the processing power of both consoles put together.

BOOHAY for sure....

I don`t know anything about hardware pc,ps3,xbox and i put 60+ hours every week into gaming so i do know what looks good or not (from my point of view) And the games are looking better and better each month on my ps3, All the latest games are released on consoles so the statement of "i have a top end pc so i can play all the latest games" is not valid.

The main issue i see at my friends that are pc players is the slow progress in new games when you compare it whit the latest hardware.
A few years back it was mainly the gaming industry that pushed the hardware and that`s shifted towards the consoles.
Now is that a good thing or bad thing?
My opinion is that its not good from a gamers point of view, yes some console players do want to see proggress in games...The fact that there is not a huge difference in games anymore will not convince microsoft and playstation to change there strategy in any way.

Graphics in consoles are getting better whit the same hardware, outdated or not.
Are the graphics good enough for smooth gameplay is whats most important for me and the awser is 100% yes.
That 3d stuff looks amazing and on any display would be awesome.HOOK ME UP

....Sorry dude, but start checking out the PC versions of multiplatform titles. They look WAAAAY better than anything on consoles.

Then with PC exclusive titles that push the latest PC hardware, there really is no comparison. Metro 2033 with DirectX 11 makes the consoles look extremely out-dated.... because they are.

Do you even know how powerful the latest computer hardware is compared to console hardware? Let's just say that the top of the line latest PC has as much as 10 times the processing power of both consoles put together.

Its my opinion and view on games and if you read my post you could figure that out yourself. Don`t bomb me whit numbers i don`t care for please, YES your pc is the top of the line and 10x better thats not the point of this topic is it.
This discusion is like the para olympics you can win but you still look like a retard.no offence.