Daggers vs. 30ft Monsters, Hows it work? : Othor Games

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:48 am

I've always found it weird.

Pretty much any RPG these days has to have a dagger wielding rogue character.

A lot of them have reletively "normal" humans wielding two daggers against an enemy that is more than three times their size.
Like in dagon age and Skyrim, you have "normal" people who are taking down dragons with basically knives.

I have a better time believing the burly warrior whose covered in metal and has a 6ft sword, but a guy in leather with daggers?

How? Go for the eyes? Stab them a few hundred times and hope they bleed to death before you get eaten?
If you can sneak up on them and get in a very precise strike, It might be enough to win, but pure combat?

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:56 am

Stab it and hope you hit an artery/vital organ. Then continue stabbing until whatever it is, stops moving.

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:18 pm

Don't expect games to be realistic.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:21 am

Go for the eyes Boo!

» Sun May 13, 2012 12:27 pm

Ever step on a nail? Hurts like hell!

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:23 pm

Videogames are full of things that make no sense at all for the sake of gameplay.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go run 500 miles across the country without breaking pace while filled with multiple stab wounds and an arrow sticking out of my head so that I can get a completely ordinary yet perfectly preserved turkey leg that's been sitting in a tomb undisturbed for a thousand years so that I can instantly close all my wounds by eating it.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:40 am

um, you can cut down a tree with a knfie
takes forever but ya can do it

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:38 am

um, you can cut down a tree with a knfie
takes forever but ya can do it

Lets see you try that with a herring...

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:47 pm

Lets see you try that with a herring...

my father was maguyver BRING IT

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:20 pm

In D&D lore there is a monk who is no more burly than your average man who works out until he is well toned, yet he can basically spank two young red dragons into submission with his bare hands wearing nothing but a robe to protect himself.

When it comes to fantasy, it's not the strength of your tool that decides what you can and can't do. It's your own personal strength and skill that matter. Weapons are simply an extension of your own ability.

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:35 pm

Obviously, they use the dagger as a minature pickaxe and borrow inside, killing the beast in the process.

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:30 pm

The answer just needs two words...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

or

It doesn't.

» Sun May 13, 2012 12:40 pm

There is an amount of suspended disbelief that goes into fantasy genres like these. However, it's not all bogus, I'd say. I imagine the point of being a rogue versus a warrior or whathaveyou, is that he has trained to be fast and agile, precise and exacting. So maybe he can kill that dragon with a few precise and well planned stabs to vitals as opposed to wailing on it with a large sword.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:48 pm

There is an amount of suspended disbelief that goes into fantasy genres like these. However, it's not all bogus, I'd say. I imagine the point of being a rogue versus a warrior or whathaveyou, is that he has trained to be fast and agile, precise and exacting. So maybe he can kill that dragon with a few precise and well planned stabs to vitals as opposed to wailing on it with a large sword.

Or you have intances like dragon age 2 where they follow the rule of cool.

Why roundhouse a flask of dangerous chemicals?

Why not?

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:47 am

Go for the weak spot, I assume. A dagger in the crotch hurts like hell, especially to a 30ft long monster.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:28 pm

I don't know, how do parasites burrow into animals? And animals are way larger than 3x of most parasites that burrow into you.

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:15 pm

Tetnis.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:45 pm

Because that 30ft monster has hitpoints that you can reduce to zero by stabbing it's toes. Like how i destroyed Dreadnoughts with a single fighter way back in Colony Wars, made me wonder why bother building those giants when a single fighter pilot can take them out without breaking a sweat :rofl:

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:32 pm

There is an amount of suspended disbelief that goes into fantasy genres like these. However, it's not all bogus, I'd say. I imagine the point of being a rogue versus a warrior or whathaveyou, is that he has trained to be fast and agile, precise and exacting. So maybe he can kill that dragon with a few precise and well planned stabs to vitals as opposed to wailing on it with a large sword.

Except a common trope is that the monster is armored and all its vitals are covered by like 2-3 inch thick metal plates and it is covered in horns but it looks cool!. A dagger would be incredibly ineffective against something like that or even something as simple as a Rhino. Even in a very skilled persons hands. People do not train to fight Rhinos. They train to fight people. Fantasy games require you to ignore anything you know about martial arts for the most part. Hell even practicality or the rules of gravity.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:07 pm

Sigh.

All of you are over thinking this.

The objective is to give the 30ft monster tetnis.......why will no one listen to me......

» Sun May 13, 2012 12:47 pm

My assassin fights Dragons, but still gets the job done :laugh:

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:49 pm

The objective is to give the 30ft monster tetnis.......why will no one listen to me......

two reasons

too slow

too uncool

:cool:

a 30-footer's gotta have gaps in the armour regardless if the armour is natural or forged & a dagger is typically thinner than a sword

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:21 pm

two reasons

too slow

too uncool

:cool:

a 30-footer's gotta have gaps in the armour regardless if the armour is natural or forged & a dagger is typically thinner than a sword

Fine.

The next time I have the answer to an important question I'll just say nothing.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:25 am

Ever wonder why the Giant Toe is loot in Skyrim?

» Sun May 13, 2012 1:30 pm

Giants and dragons are fine - plenty of crucial tendons and arteries to slice open to cut them down to size - but what I've always wondered... how does that work on the common skeleton? Surely they would just chip tiny pieces of bone off. Swords (and blunt weapons, obviously) can bash the bones to bits, but knives simply don't have enough heft to them. Food for thought.