Date Modified and Date Created

Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:24 am

I stoped using WinZip. I deleted it, and installed 7zip, and I have some Windows file manager which opens a few archived files.

A problem though is SOME of these files (depending on how they are being extracted and which type of archive it is) are not retaining their date modified, or date created. They are just getting the date of whenever they are copied into my data files.

Is this going to really screw anything up? I heard once maybe that if there are more than one file for something, it will use the newer one. But this would ruin all of that!

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Kim Kay
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Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:19 am

like also, with ESP, some are dated 2017 and some have their real dates.

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Carlos Vazquez
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Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:59 am

I really hope this doesnt mean I should reinstall for the millionth time lol. This pastebin always takes days of installing on my days off work

What do normal people do? Does everyone really just copy a WinZip archive, paste it to a folder, right click to extract here, copy the contents, delete whats left? It was so slow that way, but when I started clicking on the archives from my browser, and just copying the files from there, it was much quicker.

Even when telling to extract here though, it is no longer keeping file dates correct all the time, when WinZip did

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Cameron Garrod
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Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:50 am

The Date Created/Modified values are stored in your computer's filesystem, not the files themselves. Certain archive formats and archive managers don't save them.

They shouldn't matter as you can't have two of the same file in the same directory anyways so age wouldn't come into play.

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Ashley Tamen
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Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:22 am

Date is only for esps. And you sort them yourself or use MLOX anyway.

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Kelli Wolfe
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Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:37 am

"Normal" people don't mod Morrowind. :P

Anyway, using a mod manager like to install mods can make things easier in the long run, because you will be able to keep track of which files are from which mod and can uninstall them again if something goes wrong. Your pastebin guide doesn't seem to mention that, though.

Also, for the most part, the dates don't matter, as there can be only one file with the same name in a folder. But...

...this possibly refers to one of two things that come to my mind. First, replacers. The original Morrowind game files (meshes, textures, etc) are stored inside the Morrowind.bsa file. To replace a file inside the .bsa, a file with the same name has to be placed in a folder that corresponds to the path of this file inside the BSA, so to replace for example "textures\" inside the BSA, there has to be a "" in the "textures" folder in Data Files. But this file also needs to have a newer "date modified" than the .bsa that contains the file it is intended to replace. For non-Steam versions of the game (don't know about the gog version, though), the .bsa is dated to some time in 2002, so basically all modded files are newer. The steam version gives it the installation date, however, which means it has to be changed for mods to work. If I am not mistaken, the Morrowind Code Patch takes care of this (and the .bsas of the expansions), which you should be using if you followed the guide.

Second, Plugins. Unlike the later games, Morrowind loads master and plugin files (.esm, .esp) according to their modification dates (although .esm files are always loaded before .esp files). That means, if two plugins change the same thing in the game, the newer one will be loaded last and the change it does will appear in the game. The mlox tool is intended to sort plugins in the best possible way (by making sure that important changes from one plugin are not overwritten by other mods), and it does that by modifying their dates. Also, Wrye Bash can be used to change the load order manually, and it will set the dates accordingly.

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Darrell Fawcett
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Post » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:08 am

oh so its not the end of the world!!!

by the way, just fiished doing it again, and this time, everything looks great!!!

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