Daud is is a hired killer. He admits as much. He murders people irrespective of their merits, morals or actions. So not just evil men.

In the absence of an available judge and jury the player can justifiably choose to kill this man. In fact, in my opinion, if the only other option is to release him, he should kill him.

Unlike you, I am not burdened by moral relatvism. Even if there are grey areas, there are such things as good and evil. You, me and others may have great fun theorizing about the nature and even the possibility of the categories "good" and "evil" but any society that would truly act as if they would not exist would be short-lived.

Yes but you never get to see the full track record. And how do you know the Empress is not evil herself.


So killing people is OK as long as you are not caught? Great! We're setting awesome examples right here.


And you think I am "burdened" by it because of...what exactly? And please explain why "any society that would truly act as if they would not exist would be short-lived"?

The Empress being evil is a Wild Crack Theory. Our interactions all with her paint her as, at best, naive.

I spared Daud at the end of my playthrough. I played my Corvo as obsessed with revenge and the only reason he spared the various targets up until that point was because he hated them SO much mere Death wasn't enough. Lady Boyle was given to her psychotic stalker for God knows what, the Pendletons to the mines, Campbell was poisoned so his death would be knowing he'd suffered Karma's wrath, The Lord Regent gets to enjoy being executed and vilified for all eternity, etc.

Corvo sparing Daud was him realizing that revenge was destroying him and letting the man seek a new life. It allows him to be a father rather than a monster to Emily.

Or so I played it in my mind.

You cant judge a hired assassin on moral basis.

X wants Y dead so he hires Z.

Thats like X wants Y dead and uses a hammer to kill Y.

If a hammer isnt available. X will use a fork, a lamp, a knife, a gun, a missile, an attack dog, a chicken with C4 attached, a spade, a baseball bat and so on.

You cant blame the tool for the wielders intent. A hired killer is simply a tool, nothing more.

To demonstrate. X wants Y dead and hires an assassin.

Scenario A ) Y = Hitler
Scenario B ) Y = Mother Theresa

An assassin killing A has NOT done a noble act.
An assassin killing B has NOT done a immoral act.

The moral / immoral action commited is here lies 100% on X's shoulder. Noone else.

If your toilet doesent work and your sweet grandmother pays for a plumber to fix it for you. Do you ignore your grandma and thank the plumber?

You misunderstand. I meant if there is no possibility to bring Daud to trial, the player has to dispense justice himself. Necessity knows no law.

As to your argument that the empress might be evil (she obviously isn't): it doesn't matter. This man kills for pay, whatever the personality of the victim. He must be stopped.

The decision is up to you whether they are bad or not. It is a gray area and if you think they are bad then they are bad, if you don't think they are bad they are not. Good and bad all depends on someone's point of view.

I was using sarcasm but never mind. And we are not talking about the confines of the game anymore in this argument, so it is obviously very possible to sedate him. Again, wrong.


Uhm, I am sorry, how do you know that she obviously isn't? Because she is presented in a "caring for her people" light from the start, that means without a doubt there is no possible way of her to have committed a crime? Yeah, sorry, no. Solid evidence otherwise you can't claim there is no possibility of her being evil.

So, he might actually be a vigilante that has prevented wars, but you are still willing to kill him because he does it for pay? Yup, people are right, nobody is business smart in this day and age.


Exactly! And points of views don't matter when judging someone. Either you try to understand it from an objective perspective or you just don't bother because personal opinion might cause even more harm, no matter of the intention of preventing it.

What an utterly stupid and irrational argument !

A Hammer or Knife or any other *tool* does not have a mind of its own - nor free will and a conscience - it cannot rebel against being used wrongly or speak out against injustice.

A human being has conscience, free will and the responsibility to exercise those properly. You need to look at the examples of history a little more closely such as the second world war and the Nuremberg trials - men who claimed they were simply *following orders* when they gassed the Jews.

Good and evil are NOT abstract - Hitler, Stalin, The Yorkshire Ripper and the Rwandan genocide were not abstract and all were most definitely evil.

Funny how your argument was mostly spot on...until you uttered these words. You cannot claim that their acts are evil because you do not know what their "victims" have experienced. Who's to say what they did didn't actually put them in a better state? "Good" and "evil" are abstract. If Ethics says they are, who are you to say otherwise with those petty examples?

Debating morals with people on the internet...worst idea of all time! Next time on "Meaningless things to do with your free time": We shall debate philosophical terms.

Can't back up their arguments with facts nor solid reasoning, claim I am dumb, yeah good job.

Anyway, since this went off topic, as it was obvious it would, Daud and his assassins could of had a more solid personality or at least a philosophy they follow so it can make them more believable characters. OP should decide for himself based on all the information he can find within that mission.

Weather or not Daud is evil is up to you. Yes, he is an assassin, but he seems truly regretful for killing the empress and the empress alone. Does that alone grant him forgiveness? That is up to the player, as you hold his fate in your hands.

That the very reason what makes Daud a good character, he's the ultimate punch clock villain, nothing is personal, its just business , which is realistic.

I agree. why do they go after corvo if corvo didn't do anything (I'm doing stealth mode ) soooooo. I'm with the guy that is with stupid.

Good or bad? Somewhat of an oversimplification I think. Cynical? I don't think anyone would doubt that. If you give him a fair fight instead of assassinating him (which I fully recommend. One of the best parts of my first playthrough), the speech he gives as he asks for his life seems to indicate that he just had it out for Dunwall's ruling class. Can you really blame him, looking at the city this story takes place in? He didn't really distinguish between a 'good' noble, like the Empress for all we know from the game, and a 'bad' one, especially since it has become his job at this point to kill these people.

So, its really up to the player whether he deserves to die for what he's done. Me? I didn't think so.

"And you choose mercy. Outstanding."