Hi, I got Dawnbringer today at lvl 29, and it's base stats are 19 damage 15 burn damage, but the wiki lists it as having 12 damage 10 burn damage. This suggests to me that it is levelled, but I would like to know for sure! Anyone know?

If you go to the testing hall all artifacts including the daedric ones are leveled. There is like 5 different versions of each one. So yes Dawnbringer is leveled.

interesting, how much skill/perk do you have in one handed weapons?

LEVELED ARTIFACTS ? WTF BETHESDA PATCH ASAP OUT. thats even more brainless idiotic moronic [censored] than oblivion one. now i get that my game is screwed after hours of play? [censored] YOU TODD HOWARD JUST [censored] YOU FOR DOING THIS [censored] TO ARTIFACTS.

You do realize you can upgrade the artifacts so that they can be better than your usual stuff. I got the Mace of Molag Bal with 28 damage which was way more powerful than anything I had at the time.

I got Dawnbreaker last night (I'm Lvl 15) and I think it was either 17 or 19 damage...can't remember without looking. But it is my best weapon now so I'm happy!

[Without cheating you can't upgrade artifact above flawless status, so they' need to have some really good raw stats to be better than a Legendary daedric weapon.

I am really curious about the max raw damage from dawnbreaker

well after reading this bullnyerk i went and CHECKED the entire weapons rack in the testinghall.

you are LYING. dawnbreaker it not levled loot there is only one dawnbreaker in the rack. neither is any other artifact. please never ever post such nonsense again. gosh. i would quit skyrim forever and hand it right back to the shop i bought it if this was true. leveled artifacts. now that would have been the KING OF NONSENSE. it would actually force you to powerlevel your char.

well that's bad new then, if the wiki is correct then with a base damage of 12 with max upgrade dawnbreaker sit at 19 raw damage vs 24 for a legendary daedric sword

Huh? What is this testing hall you speak of??

But yes, levelled loot is pants, not pants enough that I would quit the game, that's just silly, but still pants!

use a smithing potion and voila "legendary dawnbreaker" thats not the probleme here. i can live with the artifact beeing weaker than deadric. but leveled deadric artifacts is something i would NEVER accept from bethesda. never.

there are still some unique items in the game that are levled but its not the artifacts atleast. they should get away with leveled items FOREVER. lvl scaling is one thing. but screwing players over or forcing them to cheat to get the best item stats because they were to low lvl wen doing something is complete nonsense.

I think the wiki bases on the default status.

Perks, bonuses, whatever the farg factor into a player's higher number.

Damage dealt = base*(1+ X*weapon skill)*(1+perk bonus) where X is the scaling factor.

yeah but if the wiki is correct then even abusing the system to get 200 smithing to get a legendary dawn breaker it is still weaker than a simple daedric longsword upgraded with 100 smithing, sorry but for an artefact that terrible.

What is the X scaling factor?

Or...

You could just use them when you discover them.

Holding off performing a quest or getting an item because you're worried about accidentally picking it up at level 32 when it could have been 34 just means that when you do actually pick it up it won't really have much impact on your game.

Azrael
The Nord with the Sword

So are the artifacts scaled or not? :S This is messed up fi they are, I'm pretty danr sure they said they'd done away with this horrible idea

I am still unsure if it is levelled, I just hit 70 in 1 handed, and the damage displayed has gone from 19 to 20. But what about the magic damage? Mabye that is affected by my destruction talents? My relevant perks are 20% more 1 handed, and 50% more fire damage, 70 in 1 handed and 79 in destruction. BTW, does anyone else think it looks a whole lot like the desctiption of the sword Krill from the Chronicals of Tomas Covenant series? Am I showing my age with that reference?

Calm down there, kiddo.

Dawnbreaker isn't that good of a weapon in the first place.

Displayed weapon damage is affected by your skill in that weapon type and perks for that weapon type. You just increased your skill in one handed, so the damage displayed for that weapon went up. These weapons do have a "base" damage but what is displayed is how much damage you will do normally and at the present moment with your skills, perks, magical equipment (some gives bonuses to one-handed damage), and active buffs/potions.


A few items are levelled yes, but unlike in oblivion (where most of the named magical items were also levelled as well) the variation for many of them is less severe across the different versions. Daedric-prince artifacts and many other magical items are however not levelled and most items - besides artifacts - can be improved by smithing. Daedric items not created by the player are extremely rare compared to past elder scrolls games. Many players will never find more than one or two they did not craft themselves. It is then somewhat understandable that they will be quite good even when compared to named quest rewards.

Your attitude towards those offering help - even if it is not to you personally and even if they are mistaken - is pretty vile and completely uncalled for. You are getting far more worked up about this than can be considered reasonable - both in your first post and your response since then. You may wish to take a break and consider whether flipping out over a game design decision or insulting and accusing people trying to help you over a misunderstanding about a video game is at all reasonable or appropriate.

I don't think it's levelled, as my friend and I got it at drastically different levels (me 40 him 20) and the stats were the same (he and I have the same amount of armsman perks)