I don't know but, I started a new game and trained my character to be ready for Dawnguard, I haven't seen the Grey Beards yet not even climbed to they fort, and now I'm off the Soul Cairn doing the "Seeking Disclosure" mission, next thing to find is the Elder Scroll (Dragon), just talked to the Orc dude with the books, and then by art of magic, I'm about to do one of the final missions as the journal says "He might know where I can find an Elder Scroll for Paarthurnax"...


Is this normal? Is this how it was meant to be, or is just a bug that my own game has because I did something wrong? I was just playing having a great time and this tottally ruins it

. Inquiring about the Elder Scroll at the Mage's college (during the Dawnguard main quest I assume) breaks the main questline if you had not been told by Paarthurnax.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1389814-dawnguard-bug-list-1/

What the HELL???

Are you serious? Seems like a pretty substantial-sized bug to leave in, considering how many people skip the main quest...
Wow...I'm speechless. THAT'S bad...

yes, I was like WHAT THE HELL?! after everything skipping the main quest just to have fun doing my new fresh DLC downguard questline, turns to be the game is telling me things I haven't even known they existed, like that Dragon Paarthunax or whatever is called, assuming by its own that I already finished almost every mission of the quest line! this IS messed up aint it? so what was the BETA for if something as basic as this, the Dawnguard main quest line braks the main game quest line, can someone of the Beth Staff say something about this?

How does it break it exactly? Like does it skip you forward in the main quest, make the main quest unable to be completed, just an awkward moment where it mentions things you shouldn't know yet or what?
I would imagine it could make it so the entire main quest chain is broken, seeing as you need to complete an earlier quest to learn Clear Skies and reach Paarthurnax.

I haven't even met the Grey Beards, killed the first dragon in whiterun hold, became thane got Lydia, played around doing misc objectives to level up, downloaded Dawnguard, played it, joined the Dawnguard, just got outside the Soul Cairn and got the Elder Scoll from Seranas' mom, went to winterhold for information about the second one "Elder Scroll (Dragon)", then the orc dude gave me books, I spoke to him again, and now I have to go to see the dude that is in some Dwemer ruin the one that gives me something that I need to fill with blood from elves and orcs, and the journal entry says "He might know where I can find an Elder Scroll for Paarthurnax" and I dont even know who they are cuz I havent done the main Skyrim quest, wich is funny, as it don't even say anything related to the Dawnguard story even when is their main mission, so I don't know if it breaks something yet to make the game unplayable, but at least the story line is messed up, now I got no need to do the main quest to know things or meet new characters, doing the Dawnguard quest line skips all of this when you have to get that Scroll, I suppose when I get it I can go to that dragon and finish the game without not even seeing Alduin for a first time or the unrelenting force shout the grey beards teaches me..... so yeah... I guess it pretty much breaks the entire game... your "destiny" as a dragonborn....

sad news keep a save before doing anything important like a new quest or something, always keep a good saved file can prevent you for restarting the whole game (you never know what you'll encouter with bethesda's games)

Is it confirmed that obtaining the scroll for the Danwguard MQ breaks the Skyrim MQ, because that sounds like an enormous bug that Beth, of all developers, would definitely have prevented from occurring. They're normally really fastidious on preventing quest order bugs.

Personally, I'm not a "do everything with the same character" player, so I doubt that it would affect me, but I'm skeptical that this bug exists.

It doesn't break the quest. It's just a wording issue in the journal. Immersion breaker. Later on when you do go to Paarthurnaax you can still advance the MQ.

Well if I can skip that annoying quest in the Thalmor embassy, the better.

Thanks, that's what I figured. People speak in such enraged tones about comparatively trifling bugs that it can be very confusing coming into this board!

I was enraged back at 1.2, this time I am mostly asking for information, I didn't advance more when I read that, as I didn't want to mess something up, If you don't believe that bug exists, you should do the Dawnguard main quest before the original Skyrim main quest line and see it for yourself, I did some research before posting here and found some information, even in this forum (http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1389814-dawnguard-bug-list-1/) says it breaks the quest, I don't know if it do breaks it as I haven't advanced on it, but it sure is messed up, at least the story is now

thats not all dawnguard does it brakes the main quest right from the start of the game at the executioner block alduin will fly around and executioner will stand there doing nothing try making a new character and u will see what i mean

What if you sold the scroll to the keeper after Skyrim MQ? Is there a way to have it back?

for what I've read, they made that quest assuming you already finished the Skyrim MQ and then you can have it back from him to complete the Dawnguard one, that's why the game assumes that you alredy know who Paarthurnax is even if you haven't played the MQ

Started a new character... everything working as intended. :/

they should NOT have made it necessary to get that elder scroll for the dlc
you never use it anyway

i made a new character 15 minutes ago worked fine maybe it is random

Actually you do its read with the other two .

so what then? there is no work around or a possible fix soon?

Ok so I kept playing and now I'm doing one of the final quests on the main quest of the original Skyrim without doing the ones that come before.... anybody knows if they are going to fix this?

You still have to progress through the full main quest-line to finish it, so it's not much of an issue other than the spoiler.

Sorry for bumping this back up, but I haven't heard much about this since and I was wondering if there was any confirmation: does doing the Dawnguard main quest have no effect on the main game's main quest other than a 'spoiler'? Because I am a-okay with that if that is the case.

Why would it break anything, you just get the journal entry early. You still have to do everything you would normally have to do to get to Paarthurnax, knowing the name is not going to spoil too much if you have never done the main quest, it does not tell you who Paarthurnax is. You could always get the scroll before going to the Greybeards, you just never before had to ask about the scroll unless you were doing the main quest. They can hardly break it up to have two sets of dialogue with the same person for the same scroll that ends up with different journal entries. Something would be bound to go wrong. You find the scroll it should vanish, no matter which quest you find the scroll for. If not, well at least you know why you will be lugging that scroll around till you go see Paarthurnax.