Does anyone use Wrye Flash? : Fallout 3

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:59 pm

I can't get FWE, MMM, Project Beauty, WMK, Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch, and DaRN UI to work together in Wrye Flash.

Does anyone here use Wrye Flash and have those mods installed? I could really use some help getting it to work. I understand how to use BAIN and make the Bashed Patch but something isn't working right.

Thanks.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:08 am

Only one I am not sure on is the Unofficial Patch, as it is typically not recommended to use it as it was not maintained (you would want to manually edit it some if you intend to use it), but the rest should be able to work fine with FLASH (I use all of them other than UFO3P). I suggest using BOSS in tandem with FLASH (it will add tags so the merging goes better), and making sure you have all the appropriate FOIP files for the mods so they can play nice (covers a number of conflicts outright and helps things play nice).

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:46 pm

Only one I am not sure on is the Unofficial Patch, as it is typically not recommended to use it as it was not maintained (you would want to manually edit it some if you intend to use it), but the rest should be able to work fine with FLASH (I use all of them other than UFO3P). I suggest using BOSS in tandem with FLASH (it will add tags so the merging goes better), and making sure you have all the appropriate FOIP files for the mods so they can play nice (covers a number of conflicts outright and helps things play nice).

Do you use any FOIP patches for MMM, FWE, EVE, etc.?

I'm not sure how to go about installing the said files. Do I install FWE, MMM, EVE, Project Beauty, and WMK with BAIN, then instal the FOIP patches after? Or merge the patches with the file it belongs to to the same archive?

Also when I run BOSS it usually messes things up, I just use the load order on the FOIP Nexus post.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:18 am

BOSS should not mess anything up, never has for me. All it should do is get the mods into the best possible LO for you, add some tags to the mods that Flash can use when making the bashed patch, and tell you little notes about the files too (like required files and such). I HIGHLY recommend it.

In regards to FOIP and the series of mods, I would recommend this.

Install your major mods (FWE, MMM, EVE, PB, & WMK). Go to Nexus and search FOIP. Download the assorted patches you need and install them (note the EVE ones on Nexus are out of date, I will link to them for you in a second - also, the PB one you want is with the MMM ones I believe). Then go and grab the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1119869-relz-marts-mutant-mod-10-rc-61/page__st__100__p__16677278#entry16677278 and install it, and then finally grab your EVE Patches http://www.megaupload.com/?d=752S4RMQ and http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NG1YEAHI and install them.

Now, you want to run BOSS on the list, it should sort it up for you. Make sure to read through the output page for useful information regarding the files. At this point, you are probably safe to build your Bashed Patch, but you may want to pop back with your LO listing for us to look at, since these major mods seem to confuse many folks in regards to what should be used when.

Any more questions, keep them coming

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:42 pm

I'm installing it all right now, will post back if I run in to more problems, but thank you so much Red,

much appreciated.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:21 pm

I've used it with those and similar mods, including the unofficial patch. The trick is that you should ignore the bashed patch entirely and use the existing compatibility patches. You can do a lot without a merged or bashed patch. Do use the Installers tab, do use BOSS, just don't ignore tags and the bashed patch.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:18 pm

You just contradicted yourself. You say "The trick is that you should ignore the bashed patch entirely" then next sentence say "do use BOSS, just don't ignore tags and the bashed patch".

For a newbie that is only going to be a very frustrating thing to read.

To the Original Poster - what is meant by "I can't get FWE, MMM, Project Beauty, WMK, Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch, and DaRN UI to work together in Wrye Flash." Can't work how? What goes wrong. The devil is in the details.

There is only one esp that can be merged into bash from FOIP called Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp that should be kept active anyway. All the rest can be merged if bash will let them.

It can and does all work with bash:

Spoiler

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» Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:07 pm

I've used it with those and similar mods, including the unofficial patch. The trick is that you should ignore the bashed patch entirely and use the existing compatibility patches. You can do a lot without a merged or bashed patch. Do use the Installers tab, do use BOSS, just don't ignore tags and the bashed patch.

Well do you have a heavily modded game? I think once you get as many mods as I have installed you need to use the Bashed Patch, but that's just my opinion- if you have a lot of mods and your game works fine without the Patch then I stand corrected.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:59 pm

You just contradicted yourself. You say "The trick is that you should ignore the bashed patch entirely" then next sentence say "do use BOSS, just don't ignore tags and the bashed patch".

For a newbie that is only going to be a very frustrating thing to read.

To the Original Poster - what is meant by "I can't get FWE, MMM, Project Beauty, WMK, Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch, and DaRN UI to work together in Wrye Flash." Can't work how? What goes wrong. The devil is in the details.

There is only one esp that can be merged into bash from FOIP called Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp that should be kept active anyway. All the rest can be merged if bash will let them.

It can and does all work with bash:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  fallout3.esm01  anchorage.esm02  thepitt.esm03  streetlights.esm04  brokensteel.esm05  pointlookout.esm06  zeta.esm07  unofficial fallout 3 patch.esm  [Version 1.2.0]08  inventory access.esm09  imcn.esm0A  destruction.esm0B  pointlookout-followersgettogo.esm  [Version 2.]0C  impervious power armour.esm0D  craft.esm0E  calibr.esm  [Version 1.4]0F  xcalibr.esm10  xcalibruniverse.esm11  project beauty.esm12  refurbishes [all].esm13  cubeexperimental (en).esm14  fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esm15  mart's mutant mod.esm16  companion core.esm17  companion share & recruit.esm18  robco certified v2.esm19  wasteland whisperer v2.esm1A  enhanced weather - rain and snow.esm1B  Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm1C  dcinteriors_comboedition.esm1D  zumbs' overhauled real time security.esm1E  ss master file.esm1F  ambient temperature.esm20  unofficial fallout 3 patch - operation anchorage.esp  [Version 1.2.0]21  unofficial fallout 3 patch - the pitt.esp  [Version 1.2.0]22  unofficial fallout 3 patch - 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I meant something was going wrong in the install of said mods because when I started up the game the menu didn't come up, it was just the loading screens/slide intro thing.

I got that working now, I just have to play the game and see if the random CTD's still occur. They were before all the time when I used FOMM, so that's why I redid everything in Wrye Flash.

EDIT: Do you know where I can find a working link for xCALIBR stuff, or Book Of Earache?

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:23 pm

You just contradicted yourself. You say "The trick is that you should ignore the bashed patch entirely" then next sentence say "do use BOSS, just don't ignore tags and the bashed patch".

Typo. I meant to repeat that you shouldn't worry about the bashed patch.

Well do you have a heavily modded game?

No, but if the OP is using the mods he lists and not much else, neither does he. All of these big-name mods have been made compatible with each other without patching/merging.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:55 am

Well it sounds like it was an issue with Darn most likely.

I reported in the Wrye Bash thread that recent versions of BAIN are not annealing xml files appropriately - so that has been reported. So if you had been messing with unified HUD or Revelation with Darn that could cause issues. I changed out a few Oblivion Darn versions and had to end up removing by hand then installing Darn over again to fix.

If that is the issue and you did swap out xml files then having a solid example for the bash team to work with would likely help. If not then glad you got it working.

OnmyojiOmn-
Well yes FWE/MMM/FOIP and eve and WMK were made to work together but even then you need a merged patch - the bashed patch is a better merged patch, so why not use it - especially if you have gone as far as installing Wrye Flash and using BAIN?

Project Beauty is just plain better implemented with a bashed patch. Even Delmer of FWE admitted that.

I really don't see the point of the advice to not use it. It isn't that complicated after the first few times.