I can't roll continuesly in first-person unless my weapon is drawn.

Arrows fly from either side of my character frequently instead of from my bow.

Active effects are duplicated and are showing things I'm not currently wearing.

Can't interact with my bookshelf in the Dawnstar sanctuary anymore.



Come on... really? Hire some testers. This is becoming New Vegas all over again. I'm going to send you guys a bill for my time reporting glitches. This is ridiculous.

"Does Bethesda have any game testers?"

Yes and were it! The consumer is the new tester nowadays.

According to the credits there were like 75 I believe (at least 50)

There use to be testers but unfortunately they all took a arrow to the knee

*we're

*used
*an arrow

If you can't write a couple sentences correctly, don't complain about others writing buggy games.

It's amazing how entitled you people get. Think that your unit purchase makes you some kind of demi-god. You've been drinking the customer is always right koolaid a little too much...

If you are going to start correcting people, but you have bad grammar... Stop Dat!

Wow, nice. I wish I could claim they were ironic mistakes or some kind of acceptable use of colloqial english, but no. 1 you, me 0.

I also don't complain about bugginess of games either, knowing that be it english, french, Java, Ruby, C++, or whatever, I make mistakes all the time...

I agree. In my opinion, the bugs, as far as the Xbox 360 version of the game is concerned, are not bad enough to warrant most of the hatred being spread on these forums. People are demanding refunds and claiming Bethesda has bad programmers. Maybe we are playing different games, but the way I see it, and apparently, the way most of the video game reviewing media outlets are seeing it, this is the game of the year.

What I would like to understand is the ratio. What is the number of legitimate complaining users vs the number of copies sold? I'm not sure that is the best count but I would really like to understand what percentage of the customer base on a per platform basis is actually experiencing issues. I have had only a few texture issues and no issues that would impact the interaction with the game.

Double checked for spelling/grammer/run on sentences/prepositional phrases/etc./etc./etc.

Answering this would be many an IT companies wet dream.

While not exactly what you are wanting to know, I can tell you that once a problem gets reported in the bugs section on a uesp page, it's probably affecting a solid % of people ; given it's wikiness, like if it is only one lone ranger seeing the bug, it will get removed from the page, unlike the incredibly expanding blob o' bugs that is the 360 issues thread.

Some examples of the bugs I've seen that were already reported on there : that scumbag Skald not clearing his quests off my misc list http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Skald and the Windhelm house eating daggers in the master bedroom http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Hjerim.

Did I mention I love that sight?

Agreed. I'm using it as a reference more and more. What's hard is avoiding spoilers while still appreciating the information and depth of the game presented by the website. I could sit around and read up on the lore thru the generations of the game for days....

I think Bethesda did a great job on this game and I'm happy to report any bugs I encounter so long as I know they're happy to fix any (hopefully ALL) bugs that the fans have reported.

This is what I was going to say. Just look at the credits.

Thing is, most people accept the Release Now, Patch later mentality. I said this was going to happen 20 years ago, but basically was told to shut up, I didn't know what I was talking about by the community at the time, and was said, "it will never happen." Sadly I am correct.

Nothing will change, until we get another 80s (was it 1984?) game crash in the industry again for better quality.

Thing is 8 bit era was riddled with horrid and crappy games, most were banking on the name to sell it. Take the Back to the Future game, while it was a good movie the game had little to do with the movie and was a more annoying version of a paperboy like game

the customers are the testers...

How about the E.T. game? Now that was Horrible.

the Atari version? yeah so was the Pac Man port for the Atari lmao

I want to thank the last several posters for helping me not feel old by realizing that I'm not the only one on the Internet that bought a brand new Atari as my first game console. That is not sarcasm. Thank you all!

Sad but true! With the advent of online gaming, beta testing and quality control was replaced with this!

Enjoy!

The truth is, most gamers don't bother posting their problems on forums. Based on my own circle of friends who bought Skyrim, and the fact that every single one of them has run into a good chunk of the bugs reported on here, I would say the percentage of those effected is probably very high. You can't just assume the numbers are small because you don't see enough complaints here.

A lot of gamers will simply trade in the game and never buy another Bethesda title, or wait and buy it used later, which in both cases means one less new copy purchased and less $$ for Bethesda, which I feel is well deserved.

Skyrim will be the last new copy of a Bethesda game I plan to buy. If I do decide to buy any future Elder Scrolls game, it will definitely be a used copy, and definitely at least 6 months after the release date. While I have enjoyed the game in between all the bugs, I can't truly relax and enjoy the experience because I am always anticipating the next broken quest, glitched item, etc. etc. etc. It definitely take a lot of the fun out of it for me, and I really don't appreciate the fact that I paid $60.00 for the privilege.

$20.00 from a used game store would be more appropriate, and I would be far less upset by any bugs I found. All of us who suffered through the first 12 months of Oblivion are asking ourselves why we fell for this crap twice!

with 10mill units shiped its good job they dont come on forums at once. as for not buying another one of course thats your choice and youll be missed.

Don't forget though, that someone who has had a bad experience are much, much more likely to be vocal about it. So it really might be only a smallish number.

Yes little fellow run along now with your holy writ. We know you are the chosen one sent here to butt punch everyone. Besides I was drunk when I wrote that

I would run but I am all out of stanima. Or perhaps I have some kind of leg issue, perhaps ........

Thing is people want to be beta testers. Look how many people sign up for early beta testing on games like Gears of War or whatever.

Fact is no matter how many internal testers Bethesda have, things will slip through. You cant beat millions upon millions of gamers dedicating many hours per day to this game as the best way to find bugs.