So, let me run over this again...

You guys are wanting to either:

1) Be awarded five extra Perk Points,

or

2) Be allowed to completely erase all of the progress, training, learning, etc. that you've done on your character. You don't want to lose your level, but you want to suddenly go from being an astrophysicist to an Olympic gymnast overnight? And this feature isn't in the game, so you sarcastically whine about it "would make too much sense"?

Have either of you read your posts and really taken the time to think about them? Because they're both pretty [censored] ignorant.

Why should you be awarded with a "do over" for you making bad choices with your Perk points? Seriously, the first post I quoted even said that he forgot what he has originally going to spend it on, but because of his abysmal memory capacity, he should be allowed to get an extra five Perk points because he made a mistake.

As for the second post, your idea is just as bad as the first post. It's not Skyrim's fault that you didn't plan out your character well. You can see and read what each Perk does well before you ever get close to unlocking it, therefore you have no one to blame but yourself for any poor choices you've made during point allocation. Why should you be awarded the ability to effectively re-work your characters life after you've shown an amazing capacity for the misappropriation of resources?

Look, you both made mistakes (obviously) in your character builds. Accept it and deal with it. Don't try and pander for features to be added to the game that would literally break the game.

If I start out being an Assassin, and take that build all of the way to level 81, then decide that I somehow [censored] it all up back at level 5 (strange that the effects don't become apparent until 76 levels later though...), why should I be able to hit a button or pay a vendor and all of the sudden I'm a level 81 Mage? And this wouldn't just absolutely [censored] the whole experience of the game?

Imagine a person works his whole life to become the President. He works hard his whole life and finally attains the position he so dreamed of. Then he sits in the Oval Office and thinks to himself, you know I would've rather been an artist... a visionary artist even. Then he goes and pays some shady guy in a back corner of D.C., or even better, wishes on a shooting star, and then wakes up the next morning as Jackson Pollock? Does that sound like it'd make any sense at all?

And especially since there is no way to erase the memory of the rest of the world. People would know that said artist was the president with no artistic ability the day before, what possibly could have happened?

These are horrible ideas. Why should you be allowed to break the game and be awarded for the failure of bad choices? That's just too ignorant to think about.

No. Either deal with the choices you've made, or create a new character. It's not the game's fault that you've reached level 81 and only [/i]now[/i] are you unhappy with what you've built. So why should the game be held responsible and be made to give you a "do over"?

New perk trees are unrelated to level, you can max them when you are 81 (though there is no reason to be that high anyways.)

Grab "the aetherium wars" book and read it, it starts a very long and awesome quest.

So, let me run over this again...

You guys are wanting to either:

1) Be awarded five extra Perk Points,

or

2) Be allowed to completely erase all of the progress, training, learning, etc. that you've done on your character. You don't want to lose your level, but you want to suddenly go from being an astrophysicist to an Olympic gymnast overnight? And this feature isn't in the game, so you sarcastically whine about it "would make too much sense"?

Have either of you read your posts and really taken the time to think about them? Because they're both pretty [censored] ignorant.

Why should you be awarded with a "do over" for you making bad choices with your Perk points? Seriously, the first post I quoted even said that he forgot what he has originally going to spend it on, but because of his abysmal memory capacity, he should be allowed to get an extra five Perk points because he made a mistake.

As for the second post, your idea is just as bad as the first post. It's not Skyrim's fault that you didn't plan out your character well. You can see and read what each Perk does well before you ever get close to unlocking it, therefore you have no one to blame but yourself for any poor choices you've made during point allocation. Why should you be awarded the ability to effectively re-work your characters life after you've shown an amazing capacity for the misappropriation of resources?

Look, you both made mistakes (obviously) in your character builds. Accept it and deal with it. Don't try and pander for features to be added to the game that would literally break the game.

If I start out being an Assassin, and take that build all of the way to level 81, then decide that I somehow [censored] it all up back at level 5 (strange that the effects don't become apparent until 76 levels later though...), why should I be able to hit a button or pay a vendor and all of the sudden I'm a level 81 Mage? And this wouldn't just absolutely [censored] the whole experience of the game?

Imagine a person works his whole life to become the President. He works hard his whole life and finally attains the position he so dreamed of. Then he sits in the Oval Office and thinks to himself, you know I would've rather been an artist... a visionary artist even. Then he goes and pays some shady guy in a back corner of D.C., or even better, wishes on a shooting star, and then wakes up the next morning as Jackson Pollock? Does that sound like it'd make any sense at all?

And especially since there is no way to erase the memory of the rest of the world. People would know that said artist was the president with no artistic ability the day before, what possibly could have happened?

These are horrible ideas. Why should you be allowed to break the game and be awarded for the failure of bad choices? That's just too ignorant to think about.

No. Either deal with the choices you've made, or create a new character. It's not the game's fault that you've reached level 81 and only now are you unhappy with what you've built. So why should the game be held responsible and be made to give you a "do over"?

Its a Video game not real life so your comparisons are irrevelent. and not everyone has the time to make a completely new character. some people such as me have a girlfriend/wife a full time job. and possibly kids. so a respec at the cost of gold or through a quest line is not a stupid idea. But i think one time is enough

So, let me run over this again...

You guys are wanting to either:

1) Be awarded five extra Perk Points,

or

2) Be allowed to completely erase all of the progress, training, learning, etc. that you've done on your character. You don't want to lose your level, but you want to suddenly go from being an astrophysicist to an Olympic gymnast overnight? And this feature isn't in the game, so you sarcastically whine about it "would make too much sense"?

Have either of you read your posts and really taken the time to think about them? Because they're both pretty [censored] ignorant.

Why should you be awarded with a "do over" for you making bad choices with your Perk points? Seriously, the first post I quoted even said that he forgot what he has originally going to spend it on, but because of his abysmal memory capacity, he should be allowed to get an extra five Perk points because he made a mistake.

As for the second post, your idea is just as bad as the first post. It's not Skyrim's fault that you didn't plan out your character well. You can see and read what each Perk does well before you ever get close to unlocking it, therefore you have no one to blame but yourself for any poor choices you've made during point allocation. Why should you be awarded the ability to effectively re-work your characters life after you've shown an amazing capacity for the misappropriation of resources?

Look, you both made mistakes (obviously) in your character builds. Accept it and deal with it. Don't try and pander for features to be added to the game that would literally break the game.

If I start out being an Assassin, and take that build all of the way to level 81, then decide that I somehow [censored] it all up back at level 5 (strange that the effects don't become apparent until 76 levels later though...), why should I be able to hit a button or pay a vendor and all of the sudden I'm a level 81 Mage? And this wouldn't just absolutely [censored] the whole experience of the game?

Imagine a person works his whole life to become the President. He works hard his whole life and finally attains the position he so dreamed of. Then he sits in the Oval Office and thinks to himself, you know I would've rather been an artist... a visionary artist even. Then he goes and pays some shady guy in a back corner of D.C., or even better, wishes on a shooting star, and then wakes up the next morning as Jackson Pollock? Does that sound like it'd make any sense at all?

And especially since there is no way to erase the memory of the rest of the world. People would know that said artist was the president with no artistic ability the day before, what possibly could have happened?

These are horrible ideas. Why should you be allowed to break the game and be awarded for the failure of bad choices? That's just too ignorant to think about.

No. Either deal with the choices you've made, or create a new character. It's not the game's fault that you've reached level 81 and only now are you unhappy with what you've built. So why should the game be held responsible and be made to give you a "do over"?

Whether video game or real life, the comparisons are accurate and they are valid as they pertain to the same thing but in comparable situations.

I have a wife, 2 teenage kids, a 40+ hour per week job, and I still am able to game for 30+ hours per week (we're a family of gamers. There's a system in almost every room of the house and three in the living room. Uriel makes some good money.), so your sob story does nothing for me.

And a respec pretty much destroys any reason to actually put any kind of effort or care into the game. Going on that thought, why even try at all? If you can just respec, just throw a character together, quit giving a [censored] about how you spend points or how well you do, complain on the Forums about how you messed up your choices therefore you should be rewarded with something, and then pay 10 grand in gold for a do over so you can do it all again.

If your idea were to ever get implemented, this is what the Elder Scrolls would be reduced to. The Elder Scrolls would become no more relevant than the last five or six Final Fantasy games, which is to say that they're irrelevant and repetitive. Boring.

No, the idea of a "respec", for any reason, is crap and should never be considered seriously. Ever.

Take responsibility for your own bad choices, and quit trying to get rewarded for failing.

"Respec"... pfft. Worthless idea.

If you want to try something new, start a new character.

If you respec at level 81, how would that even work? At level 81, damn near every Skill is at 100. There's nothing new left to work for at that point as Skill levels and Perks (all 80 of them) are already stretching the realm of possible combinations very thin.

Just start a new character and actually explore something new rather than cheaply "power-gaming" it.

Ive explored pretty much everything there is to explore. And as i said I dont have the time to create a new character. And my playstyle is my playstyle. If you dont like the respec idea then if they add it dont use it. people have different playstyles than you and developers that cater to many playstyles are more successful. bethesda does this the best IMO. like i dont like 3rd person so i dont use it.

They won't add it as a feature, so I'm not worried about it.

Do you know why there is a carry weight? So you'll have to pick and choose what is important to carry/loot. Why not just be able to carry everything?

Do you know why there is a money system? So you'll have to pick and choose what is important to buy. Why not just be able to get anything you want?

Do you know why there is limited health/stam/mp? So you'll decide which is more important to you. Why not just have no bars and run around with 1000 in everything?

Thats part of the game. There is no point if you get everything you want. You have to choose what is important to you. Think about it.

And what's to stop someone from putting perks into smithing? Getting all the items they want. And, then "Oh I'll like those perks somewhere else" And move them to somewhere else.

Is smithing items important to you? Then you give up perks to get them. You give up something to get something else. If you get respec it ruins the point of the system the creator's put into place.

This is their game, not yours. What you are suggesting breaks the game.

you obviously never played morrowind. you could become the most overpowered god king in all of Nirn. and it was all put in by bethesda and not patched even when it was known to them. If you dont like being overpowered dont make yourself that way. Its a playstyle choice.

It's a single-player game. And, I don't mind people wanting to be gods.

There is difference in wanting to be a god by doing it with the game given to you. And asking the creators for a feature to be added that breaks the system the creator's put in place. It just seems too much.

That's just my point of view though.

Its a Video game not real life so your comparisons are irrevelent. and not everyone has the time to make a completely new character. some people such as me have a girlfriend/wife a full time job. and possibly kids. so a respec at the cost of gold or through a quest line is not a stupid idea. But i think one time is enough

You don't have the time to make a new character with a different specialization (spoiler alert: it's more fun to play stealthy with a pure stealth character than you're pure warrior that you're just boosting to get to 81 with) but you have the time to do meaningless boosting tactics to get to 81, a level that no character would be able to get to unless you took the time and boosted?

It's a single-player game. And, I don't mind people wanting to be gods.

There is difference in wanting to be a god by doing it with the game given to you. And asking the creators for a feature to be added that breaks the system the creator's put in place. It just seems too much.

That's just my point of view though.