I hoped there were more quests like the one where you go to prison in markath and must help the forsworn leader to get out.

I think there are too many quests that only involves going to nordic ruins and killing everything. At the beginning it was cool to go to nordic ruins. After the 10th it started to become a bit boring. One thing I like in morrowind was that not all quests in the guilds involved going to caves, castles, ruins, etc. Some were just about convincing some guys to join the guild or kill them if they weren't convinced. You might be thinking "But that doesn't envolve enough blood!". Yeah but it is still better than trivializing every ruin in the game.

Also, the items. For me the biggest disappointment in the game was the 9th dragon priest mask. And there aren't enough unique and good items. It seems that the best items in the game are those you create with your smithing and enchanting skill which ruins even more your motivation to go to dungeons

Yes like you said a lot of the quests are 'Go to dungeon X then kill or retrieve NPC/item Y and receive payment from NPC Z'. I feel as though Skyrim is a modder's playground; ready to be filled and realised.

the loot is useless since you can craft/enchant the best items ingame , and there's no point of looting/selling because there's nothing to do with the gold .

very true! if i get one more iron helmet, steel sword or orcish warhammer...

something i can't believe is gone from this game (unless i just haven't gotten there, yet) is the unique items, sheer quantity of them and finding them in strange, hard and uniques places, as seen in, morrowind and oblivion.

and, what's up with the almost nonexistence of a working economy?? pathetic

For me skyrim was being my favourite ES game ever in the first hours of gaming. Then they started to trivialize everything. Specially nordic ruins and dragons

In Soviet Skyrim, enchanting finds YOU overpowered.

It is so true. There is so very little money sink in the game. At later levels you end up sitting on 100's of k in gold with nothing to spend it on.
There should of been Enchanting/ Smithing services, Travel and houses could have cost more, with perhaps some upkeep fees or such.. less lootable potions and expensive gear(I have never in my whole time playing skyrim bough a single potion)...

There should have been more investing/purchasing/charity sinks. Invest in restoration after battles. Invest in farms to incrase their size and workforce,give money or fund beggars so they could buy their own houses and stuff. I mean if I have 100,000 gold I'm sure I could buy a house for the one beggar in the village(city)

Considering how I tend to find something new every time I return to a place, be it a town, a forest, mountainside or ruin, I find something new and how all the characters have their own things to say, stories to tell and they tend to speak with each other, no the game is hardly empty, nor is this "quantity over quality", which kind of a silly complaint considering how others complain because there are too few things to do.

As for quests, I tend to find as many straightforward quests, as some more unique quests, but frankly, this is the case with nearly every RPG out there ever.

I'd love to see all these unique quests you talk about all I ever encountered apart from the guild quests was fetch and kill quests and it was always go to X dungeon and kill Y enemy.

To me, oblivion felt bigger even without the expansions. And morrowind feels bigger than both combined.

No, it sure doesn't feel empty to me. There's a lot to do and see...they really put everything but the kitchen sink in it.

I've asked a mod to change the title because I didn't mean literally empty and some of you aren't even reading the opening post.

Nearly every Deadric quest, nearly every Thieves guild quest, The Forsworn Conspiracy in Markarth, the murderer quest in Windhelm, the redguard quest in Whiterun...

Physically no. There's tons and tons of stuff explore and run into. However, it feels void of any real substance. Nothing the player does really matters, and it eats the overall appeal beacuse there is potential for so much more.

Best post ever.

i don't care a bit about finding a new dungeon or getting another quest. that has nothing to do with my meaning (and others') of the "emptiness" of skyrim.

new locations and quests are expected and demanded in a roleplaying/rpg action adventure games. nothing to hang your hat on there. take a second to imagine what skyrim would be without those NECESSITIES.

shooting an elk, catching a salmon, listening to a scripted npc conversation, climbing a mountaintop, watching npc's fight, is all fine, but, meaningless for my gameplay. it may help my roleplay, but, adds no meaningful depth or substance.

Nah,Idont think skyrim is "empty"
I get that epic feel

Skyrim might be a bit barren now...but just wait until the Creation Kit drops and all the new DLC's and Mods get released...those will bring a lot more life to the game

Tim (aka the Slipperman)

I do wish there were more NPC's out and about. You see a few, but seems OB had more. And I miss the handful naked Nords you find strewn throughout Morrowind.

Wouldn't mind a few bandits trying to take my money or ambushing me. Not too many to become annoying like Cliffracers in MW, but maybe a few more.

Was kind of nice to see Companions out and about doing Companion business, I assume, during my travels. (I'm not part of that guild)

The content is there but it's not properly strung together. That's the problem with beth's sandbox games. Still enjoying it, but I keep feeling this.

Agreed. It feels too shallow, and it hurts the epicness and fun of the game.

i totally agree

I played a game called shaiya online and i loved it because not only was it free but there were very large guilds and when skyrim came out i dropped that game totally. i miss my guild and all but i really like skyrim and oblivion. there is another game called Two Worlds 2. that game is just like skyrim and oblivion. that game was really kick ass and i had a hard time putting it down because there was online play with other people and you could build your toon alot stronger online than you ever could in story mode. regardless of its awesomeness once skyrim came out again i dropped that game. yes skyrim does actually feel empty to me but not because lack of npc convo but because there is a lack of online play with other people. Skyrim topples Two Worlds 2, how could they leave out online play?? i want to be able to fight my friends' toons and get my ass with my friends by like 3 dragons at once while we are all wearing headsets. cmon i know theres a ton of people that must feel the same way i do. if we had online play we wouldnt give a care about lack of storyline depth or npc convo because we would have our own damn storyline in a bad ass guild kicking the companions asses all over whiterun.

Not at all.