Does the British version spell "Dishonoured" collect : Othor Games

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:30 pm

I'm wondering why I'm looking at Dishonoured misspelled as "Dishonored" when publishers, particularly one as large as Besthesda, are supposed to localize their games.

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:31 am

I don't think that's high on their list of things to do...

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:18 pm

This topic has very high potential to evolve in a decidedly non-constructive direction.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:27 pm

Its not misspelled. Honor comes from the original latin word honos, and Honour comes from honoris. Both are correct, and mean the exact same thing. I can't understand why you would care either way.

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:54 am

It is like Grey and Gray. Or Elfs and Elves. Either one is correct.

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:10 am

It's the same with "color" and "colour", "Armor" and "Armour". None of them are wrong or spelled incorrectly, there is really nothing to complain about :happy:

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:37 pm

Actually, the first time I heared about the game and about the British victorian era influence on the design, I wondered why they did not call it "Dishonoured". Would have been classy.

I guess all localized versions will still carry the original, US english title. So on the frensh box it will say Dishonored and not "Déshonoré" or whatever the right translation is. So the point is kind of moot.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:19 pm

Its not misspelled. Honor comes from the original latin word honos, and Honour comes from honoris. Both are correct, and mean the exact same thing. I can't understand why you would care either way.

It's the same with "color" and "colour", "Armor" and "Armour". None of them are wrong or spelled incorrectly, there is really nothing to complain about :happy:

They are either spelled correctly or incorrectly depending on which country you're in. In Canada, Europe and Australia, "dishonored," "color," "armor," etc, are all misspellings and will lose you marks where scholastic grading applies. In the USA, "dishonour," "colour," and "armour" are also misspellings. The US simplified their version of the English language.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:01 pm

They are either spelled correctly or incorrectly depending on which country you're in. In Canada and Europe, "dishonored," "color," "armor," etc, are all misspellings. In the USA, "dishonour," "colour," and "armour" are also misspellings.

My spell check says otherwise.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:50 pm

Actually, the first time I heared about the game and about the British victorian era influence on the design, I wondered why they did not call it "Dishonoured". Would have been classy.

I guess all localized versions will still carry the original, US english title. So on the frensh box it will say Dishonored and not "Déshonoré" or whatever the right translation is. So the point is kind of moot.

Well I know in Germany atleast, it's called "Dishonored - Die Maske Des Zorns". Ain't the brightest at german BUT the important part is, the main title stays the same.

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:18 am

They are either spelled correctly or incorrectly depending on which country you're in. In Canada and Europe, "dishonored," "color," "armor," etc, are all misspellings. In the USA, "dishonour," "colour," and "armour" are also misspellings. The US simplified their version of the English language.

No, cause if I write a book in the UK and publish it in the US, you simply cannot tell me I am "wrong" about my spelling in it regarding "color" and "armour" since it's a UK published edition, same goes vice versa.

The game has the name "Dishonored", that shouldn't change since they chose that spelling

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:46 am

My spell check says otherwise.

Because you have it set to English-US, which is default...

Well I know in Germany atleast, it's called "Dishonored - Die Maske Des Zorns". Ain't the brightest at german BUT the important part is, the main title stays the same.

Because the publisher, Bethesda, didn't localize the title... which is the point of this thread.

No, cause if I write a book in the UK and publish it in the US, you simply cannot tell me I am "wrong" about my spelling in it regarding "color" and "armour" since it's a UK published edition, same goes vice versa.

The game has the name "Dishonored", that shouldn't change since they chose that spelling

No, because where you publish a book has nothing to do in the least of whether the spelling correlates to proper national standards. Why would you think publishing a book someplace defines whether you spelled correctly or not?

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:04 pm

Because you have it set to English-US, which is default...

I don't think you get it. My English-US spell check says Dishonored and Dishonoured are both correct. Your argument is invalid.

No, because where you publish a book has nothing to do in the least of whether the spelling correlates to proper national standards. Why would you think publishing a book someplace defines whether you spelled correctly or not?

...Why would you think publishing a game someplace defines whether you spelled correctly or not? You see where this is going? Nowhere.

This thread is probably gonna be locked soon. It's been nice pointlessly 'arguing' with you

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:28 am

I don't think you get it. My English-US spell check says Dishonored and Dishonoured are both correct. Your argument is invalid.

You don't seem to understand that your spellcheck accepts both spellings because both are correct, depending - and that "depending" is on whether you are using US spelling or Commonwealth spelling. Your assumption that that spell-check feature implies what you are suggesting it does is without any logic. Particularly when a simple internet search would confirm for you what the national spellings are. This is standard grade-school knowledge. But as you're likely in the US, you probably wouldn't have the experience of being taught the commonwealth spellings. Do an internet search if you want to learn the history of the US change from standard British English.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:19 pm

Well I know in Germany atleast, it's called "Dishonored - Die Maske Des Zorns". Ain't the brightest at german BUT the important part is, the main title stays the same.

Yeah, I can't really think of any game title that been translated for different languages. Well, excluding the east asian languages.

The title is a trademark, it's not something you just change on a whim.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:34 pm

Okay I am not gonna start an argument.
IF they changed the name according to spellings and languages, it would come out with 20-30 different title names, confusing customers, shops and pretty much be a weird sale internationally. Plus it won't be a "global" title as I wouldn't be able to buy my copy from any other country than the UK, US or Denmark(where I am) as I wouldn't want it to have a german cover or a greek cover, it would just mess up sales and confuse people to do so.

And Bethesda has never regionally or internationally changed their titles, when did Oblivion have a German Cover with Oblivion spelled in German?

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:05 pm

Both spellings are correct in the English Language overall, but are incorrect locally. It runs on the same logic as why you can't say "ain't" in a scientific paper, even though it's now considered a word in some dictionaries.

American English was an attempt to both to simplify the language and an attempt to differentiate the still-new nation from their onetime rulers. It was partially successful- not all "new" spellings were accepted on this side of the pond, but the simplification of -ou- to just -o- was accepted in most instances.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:46 pm

American English was an attempt to both to simplify the language and an attempt to differentiate the still-new nation from their onetime rulers. It was partially successful- not all "new" spellings were accepted on this side of the pond, but the simplification of -ou- to just -o- was accepted in most instances.

Yet the Latin is just honor. So not really a simplification; I guess you could say just going back to the original. :thumbsup:

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:47 pm

It's a name, so they can spell it however they want. Did you yell at David Cronenberg for eXistenZ too?

It's also a trademark issue. I'd imagine they don't want to file for and protect two trademarks just to please some pedants who want to make a mountain out of a molehill.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:40 pm

It's a name, so they can spell it however they want. Did you yell at David Cronenberg for eXistenZ too?

It's also a trademark issue. I'd imagine they don't want to file for and protect two trademarks just to please some pedants who want to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Plus they'll have to pay extra to keep every extra trademark name for a certain period of time :happy:

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:40 am

I still keep spelling it Dishonoured.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:20 pm

Yet the Latin is just honor. So not really a simplification; I guess you could say just going back to the original. :thumbsup:

The british term "dishonour" originates from the french language, so it's basically because of the french overcomplication, hehe.

Also, you guys like to argue over nothing. Internet as usual, everything is as it should be, all at peace, was probably a shadow, must have been rats.

» Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:12 pm

Yet the Latin is just honor. So not really a simplification; I guess you could say just going back to the original. :thumbsup:

That may have been going back to the original, but how about most of the stuff added by the now-defunct Simplified Spelling Board?

Here's a few words from it. See if you know what they're supposed to be!

Det
Dout
Procede
scool
caracter
bil
bluf
eg
ar
giv
hed
hart
buro
cald
yur

Yes, those were actual spelling suggestions used up until 1920.

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:28 am

Nobody but me sees the irony in the thread title, eh?

And geeze, Freddo, I can't believe you're still moderating gamesas's forums

Your avatar has been making me smile since before MOrrowind released!

» Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:24 am

Nobody but me sees the irony in the thread title, eh? :smile:

They clearly meant "correctry." :stupid:

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