Yes, we've been through that in two full threads. Right now, only the Xbox has confirmed release and a confirmed release date. Bethesda have no confirmed anything beyond that.

It would be rather strange though to say that dlc will be available on 360 and not mention PC if in fact it is available on PC. To me the statement means quite clearly that it is only on 360 at first, the omission can be nothing other than deliberate otherwise it is a glaring oversight?

By knowing some Beta testers. If people do not believe this I cannot help it. The ongoing panicking it could not be released for other platforms is absolutely annoying and without any reason.

Exclusives are bad for community cohesion. But good for CEOs... so nuts to the community. Meh!

Of course not.

Who knows? Beth sure as hell isn't telling.

Presumably, PC may get it sometime in the first quarter of 2013. PS3 may never get it.

Sorry, that theory was completely debunked when they released Dawnguard and Hearthfire for the "master race" with exactly zero of the bugs identified by the XBox "guinea pigs" patched out.

You could be telling the truth as there /is/ a depot for an unnamed DLC for Skyrim on steam, but it hasn't been updated since about August. And before you ask otherwise, yes, that is how betas are tested internally as well as publicly this close to release.

Until there is an official announcement, it /is/ an xBox 360 exclusive.

What's hard to understand?

Dragonborn is classed as DLC 2.

Dragonborn and dawnguard are the two DLC's.....Not dawnguard and hearthfire.

Not really, DG and HF were, and are, both marketed as "Add-ons".

I thought the same as you before, but I was wrong.

We shall see then. It was even in the info that dragonborn was DLC2. If that is the case ,what was hearthfire.
Dawnguard and dragonborn are the 30 day exclusives in my eyes.

As it seems that we won't get DLCs to the PS3 I'm starting to think skyrim for pc...

This is what I'm rather annoyed about. Something has happened between Microsoft and (is it Zenimax, or Bethesda Softworks?) which they're not telling us...
The non-announcement of other platforms says to me that it's another 30 day exclusive DLC. This makes sense because you'd write in your terms that the distributor isn't allowed to mention other platforms until the exclusivity deal has expired, to increase sales.

Except Hearthfire was a 30-day exclusive as well. Hearthfire was in the same category as Dragonborn and Dawnguard. That's it.

Indeed, which pretty much crushes any arguments as to whether or not Hearthfire actually counted.

^ This.

Do you really think microsoft would accept hearthfire as the 2nd exclusive?.......i doubt that.

It also said somewhere dragonborn DLC2. Hearthfire is not of the standard of dawnguard or dragonborn.

Well, considering that it was a 30-day exclusive...there's really no other way to see it.


Hearthfire is an official add-on like DG and DB. The contract stated two "add-ons" would be exclusive. That's all the detail. Hearthfire was a fulfillment of that contract. The only possibility for DB being a 30-day exclusive is if they made another agreement recently.

But the community just faithfully lines up every time they make an exclusive deal and says, "Thank you sir, may I have another!" while the CEOs cart the haul away to the bank.

Until that changes, why should they do anything differently?

That's its internal name, it doesn't matter.
DLC01 is DG
BYOH (build your own house) is HF
DLC02 is DB

The only reason they're labelled like that is because hearthfire adds no quest markers so would be stupid to have the markers jump from DLC01 to DLC03...

I'm not saying I disbelieve you. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you have zero credibility because you offer no proof to the contrary. Until there's an official announcement anything else is idle speculation.

Yet another DLC I won't be buying. I refuse to give Bethesda money for a product where my release date is [censored]d around behind closed doors for M$ marketing checks after Beth just got done selling ten million copies. Prepare for apologists calling me entitled. I think I might go buy another collector's edition of The Witcher 2 instead of the Skyrim DLCs now that they're down to $40-$50 (and also because my Geralt head came out of the box a little messed up).


No, we don't. Browse an Elder Scrolls thread on any poorly moderated community site and you will see a HUGE number of people who bought Skyrim on day one that are getting "discount" versions of the DLCs on principle of Bethesda selling the PC release dates. They've lost a ton of Steam DLC sales. Even the official Steam forums have an anti-DLC sentiment purely on grounds of the delays (except Hearthfire, but that's a separate issue).


The issue stems from the fact that XBL and PSN are poor-quality services with miles of red tape and fees that discourage developers from actually fixing anything. Patching DLCs is a bureaucratic nightmare on XBL, no idea about PSN but probably similar issues for devs there. Still, at least fixing the DLCs unofficially is doable on PC since Beth doesn't lock them / treat them differently than other content.

But it still says DLC 2 Dragonborn. I can't see microsoft paying for two exclusives and accepting hearthfire as one of them. I hope i'm wrong for the sake of others.

Hearthfire does not scream exclusive to me.

Yes, its a bit weird, not stating it. It was common knowledge that the first two was xbox only for 30 days. Now as some says, Hearthfire might be to small to qualify but if so why did it have the 30 days limit.
For the PS3, the good news is that this takes place in an separate world so it should have little impact on the rest of the game. I actualy thought most DLC would be separate worlds like in Fallout 3 as it's easier to test.

Good for them - what we need now is even more people taking that kind of attitude, and following through on it with action, enough to make it hurt their bottom line. That's the only language Bethesda, or any other developer/publisher for that matter, understands.

My point is that when these companies treat their customers like trash, it's because we, as gamers overall, allow them to do so. Unfortunately, we've come to expect shoddy treatment by the game industry to be the norm.

Until more of us start voting with our wallets, it's just going to get worse.