Fallout 4 and ties to Fallout 3

Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:27 am

Ive been thinking, and since Fallout 4 takes place at the same time as Fallout 3 that means we have the very real possibility that a game pieces will be recycled. Though this doesn't have to be a bad thing, and to me is not.. This is what so far, I believe we know will be in Fallout 4

1. Super Mutants: We know theyve been loose for almost 200 years on the East Coast so it isnt suprising that we see them in Boston. Hopefully we have a leader figure that will justify why so many are present in Boston and why they didnt completely overrun the Capital Wasteland in 200 years time (given the Super Mutants high numbers, the CWs low human poplulation, and Lyons BoS inability to make any real gains.. I feel this should be addressed) because BoS doesnt do it.

2. Enclave: We see Enclave armor in the Bethesda video showcasing armor modification, so it's safe he Enclave will be present in some form in Fallout 4. And because the story takes place at the same time as Fallout 3 we can [possibly] justify a population with them having not yet reported to Adams Air Force Base and been annihilated. Or they are the scattered remnants who got away; and, while on the run are still incredibly dangerous because of their technology and training.

3. Brotherhood of Steel: Dont need to say much here, but cant either because they certainly dont seem like the White-Knights they once were in Fallout 3; and no info regarding the story has been given. Given we see the PC blow up a BoS Vertibird and shoot a rocket at a power armored foot soldier.

Additional Note:

Id like to see a return of the Swampfolk in the swampy areas of the game. They were certainly tough enough to grow their territory to Boston, given the impulse. Bad stat implementation or not, I loved the danger they presented and the creepiness delivered by them.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:13 am

Wouldn't the lack of a leader figure also help justify why the super mutants have not taken over the wasteland? That and their general lack of brain-power.

Also, why do you say "so many" are in Boston - have you seen something that indicates that there will be lots of them in Boston?

As for your other questions, I am not knowledgeable enough on the lore and such (havent played the original fallouts 1 + 2) but I will be interested to read the discussion.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:30 pm

Enclave is not a certainty. Just because we have Power Armor that looks like Enclave Armor doesn't mean there are any Enclave. It is a possibility that we have npcs that used to be the Enclave just like New Vegas, but it is not a guarantee.

As for the Brotherhood of Steel, we do not have context. Why is the protagonist fighting the BoS? Are we dealing with the Midwestern BoS, the Outcasts, or Lyon's group? It could be that they are the bad guy trying to steal technology from those who need it or it could be that the protagonist is the villain in that situation. Since the protagonist can be good or evil, you can't determine anything by who they fight. For all we know, that video could be slaughtering peaceful Super Mutants.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:09 am

^This

The Vault 87 super mutants are never suggested to have a leader, and the Fallout 3 official game guide(canon dubious) suggests the Super Mutants desire to make more of themselves is simply a biological instinct, or part of the programming of the FEV virus itself.

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Fallout_3_Official_Game_Guide_faction_profiles#Super_Mutants

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:10 pm

Theres going to be some certainties of some styles and factions that are just Fallout. Theres always going to be some sort of power armor. It just wouldn't be a fallout game without it. Super mutants are a certainty because its just an aspect of fallout. It would be like if dragon age didn't have any dragons in it, it just wouldn't make any sense. Abandoned creepy vaults are another certainty, Pipboys, bloatflys, ghouls, little boy mini nuke launchers, laser and plasma weapons, without these things, it just wouldn't be a fallout game simple as that. Some factions might come back, but not all of them because its a different area because there needs to be a different conflict, sometimes factions might come back to tie in from older games, but not always. Its all speculation because they havent talked much about the factions because it has alot to do with story which they said they are NOT going to talk about before release.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:38 pm

1. Supermutants => evreyone knows were they from and how they are created, there is no master no more, but however that doesn't exclude the fact, ther could be a local warlord having more intelligence then the standard mutant.

2. Enclave could be present as they represent or at least follow the ideology of the Pre war US and as Boston is a historical city.

3. BOS has always been A**** so far concerned, Lyon was pretty much an exception as he separeted from his hierachie to made his own group.

The goal of the BOS was allways to recover technology, with the beautyfull excuse that if it could fall in the wrong hands blablabla or that innocent people dont have a clue with what they are doing. Dont forget that BOS founders are actualy ex military

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:31 am

No it doesn't - or at least, we don't know and there is no good reason to assume this.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:41 am

Personally, I've been wondering about Talon Company. Or, as I called them, the Talon Company resupply squads. They were handy.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:39 am


Except the machine that has no reason to be vague and the real life person from Beth at least placing it in the same year.

So indeed we don't know, but we have good reasons to assume for now.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:31 am

Super Mutants are a sure thing...We do not know if they are organized or...intelligent...or if they are just another batch of Dumbs-Dumbs, as 1st gen Super Mutants refer to the newer generations...

There are exceptions to the rule...Uncle Leo, if I recall, had a decently lucid head on his shoulders...as did Fawks.

It would be nice to see a Lord Humongus style Super Mutant Warlord reigning in the Dumb-Dumbs.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:10 am


Machines would have been likely programmed for impreciseness. Codsworth saying 204 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours and 13 minutes would be very annoying for anyone listening to him. More tolerable for him to say 200 years.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:58 am


Maybe the months and such, but I doubt a exact year would be considered "annoying"
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:44 am

Dr. Li supposedly headed back home to the Commonwealth after the events in D.C.

Desmond Lockheart (Point Lookout) said that he would be heading to the Commonwealth to settle some score.

Though I have no idea how they would explain it, Dogmeat in Fallout 4 could be the same dog. When first met he is simply 'dog', but I think I remember hearing that you later supposedly learn his name. From who? How? It implies some sort of story centered around him.

Harkness, having had his memories restored but in possession of a new face might feel compelled to return to the Commonwealth.

The Brotherhood in Fallout 4 could be Lyons ... but it could also be the Brotherhood Outcasts from the D. C. area. Hell, it could even be both. Fallout 3 had the potential for a great story in the conflict between the two groups but never did anything with it. Maybe they moved their rivalry to Boston. To be sure, the orthodox BOS wouldn't take kindly to Lyons and Lyons group would probably conflict with any BOS chapter encountered anywhere.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:03 pm

The presence of Behemoths, lone super mutants, buildings filled with super mutants, dual super mutants patrolling the wasteland, super mutant brutes at an undisclosed location fighting the PC... from what weve seen so far, id say yes... there will be a considerable population of them.

I said it would justify them not taking over the wasteland in the context of the Capital Wasteland; its perfectly natural (in my mind at least) for a potential-leader mutant to have been one of the super mutants who left the CW.

Coincidentally, bound for Boston (speculation).


Id love to see the Talon Company back as well. This time more organized, with quests, leaders, and present real danger. That said Ive always been of the opinion they worked for Littlehorn & Associates... so if they came back supporting murder, slavery, cannibalism, and general evil I wouldnt much mind that either.. in fact itd put the whole puzzle together perfectly.
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