I understand that it adds to the purity of the game, but I saw in the DawnGuard forum where somebody managed to stretch it out to 30 hours simply because they walked everywhere. But why? I'll never understand the appeal. If you've walked somewhere to unlock it on your map, you've already seen everything there. And there are so few random encounters that your walking experience isn't going to be fresh every time. There's only so many times I can see the same events before they become mere annoyances. There aren't even that many enemies to fight in the wilderness so it's not like you'll be leveling up much just running from point A to point B.

A lot of people like to RP in this game and fast traveling is not part of the RP experience. Plus just because you think you saw everything doesn't mean you have. It's very easy to miss something when walking around because not everything is shown on the map.

When you fast travel you miss all of the little things that make this game more immersive. There are tons of neat stuff that you will never see marked on the map.

A fine example of this is that up until last week I never even knew that there were ants on certain tree stumps!

I started just walking normally more recently, if you can appreciate the scale of the map and just enjoy the atmosphere, I definitely see it's appeal, I used to fast travel everywhere, but then I was only seeing the main plot point areas or going straight for quests. It's kind of a nice break to not always be in a battle, or just go swimming or find something that's visually appealing, those same areas can look very different in warmer times, sunny, colder times, rain, snow, at night or in the day. I just find it's nice to take in the sights and gives you a nice break from "must quest here" "must kill this" "must fetch that"

Done. That is the appeal for many people - the immersiveness. Also, the landscape is one of Skyrim's strongest aspects - it doesn't stop being beautiful after the first time.

But of course, everyone enjoys things differently

Kind of like asking people why they don't chew faster...

Yet your character doesn't ever use the bathroom. Your character doesn't dream when they sleep. You have to assume these things happen even if you don't see them, so when you fast travel, why can't you do the same? Why can't you say "My character walked all the way there" instead of actually having to walk yourself? And some people don't even like to use the carriages, and that's fast-travel that is compatible with roleplay.

I won't play a game without fast travel as it seems stupid time consuming and I haven't the hours in the day to plod back through areas of a game in such a way. There is so much more I'd rather be doing like trading at shops, smithing or exploring new areas. If people don't like fast travel then it simple not to use it. Those like myself who use it a lot then it too is great

I RP that my character is a reality jumper, and has a special system that lets them jump to different set points on the map.

Your point is invalid.
Matter of opinion.

while true, it is also highly unlikely you will find anything new on your 50th trip up the throat of the world...

I RP my character in a world that your character doesn't exsist. Therefor, you don't exsist and nether does your point.

I mix fast travel, carriages and walking, depending on the distance, and the time I have IRL.

This is what I do as well. I don't have enough real world time to walk/run everywhere/everytime in Skyrim. Having a job and being married can sometimes interfere in my roleplaying.

I've been playing Skyrim since last December and I am *still* finding things I never knew where there before by walking from place to place, many of them unmarked locations that I never would have found had I not decided to go off the beaten path to see what was there or just look for a different route from one known place to another. And there are whole parts of the landscape that I still haven't explored.

That said, I will sometimes use fast travel if I am having to retrace my steps due to a reload made necessary by a glitch or the decision to play something out in a different manner, or occasionally if I am having to do lots of moving back and forth between the same two locations on a quest that I've already done ten times over but must do yet again to get to whatever it is that I'm really wanting to do. I still try to use the carriage system as much as possible in that case, though, because that's still more immersive than just teleporting somewhere.

In other words, you realized you got shoved into a corner.

You claimed that people who RP don't use fast travel, and I proved you wrong. Therefor, your argument is null.

Yeah, your character doesn't use the bathroom nor does he dream. Why is that? Because these are not things that are in the game. We have no choice. But we do have the choice to walk places rather than fast travel.

When I play I usually stay in a city or area for a few days. I usually have a certain quest that has priority over others. Most likely a faction quest or whatever. When I decide to leave the area I look at where I'm going on the map and see what other quests are along the way. This makes the trip a little less tedious because there are "gaps" while I'm walking to my main destination.

There are so many places you will never find or have marked on your map so that you will find it if you don't do some walking about. Places you will never fine, people you will never meet, quests you will never receive, battles you will never fight....

And walking also assist you in leveling up much faster.

I didn't say they never do, all you're doing by using fast travel is taking away a bit of that RP experience. All this is based on peoples opinions, so my argument isn't null. So more or less you make yourself out to be a casual RP instead of those hardcoe RPers.

And what I said was in use of showing you that anyone can come up with a response like that.

Because spending several hours (of in-game time) traversing the open countryside is not the same thing as sitting on a bucket for a few minutes taking a dump, or going to bed for a few hours in a relatively safe place (an inn or your own home).

In the latter two situations (with rare exceptions) it is highly unlikely that anything potentially interesting is going to occur while you are doing those things. You are not likely to have a random encounter with a potential friend or foe while tucked away safely in bed somewhere, and you are probably not going to discover any previously unknown locations while dropping the kids off at the pool.

However when you are out walking from place to place, stuff HAPPENS. It may not even be stuff that you take part in, just stuff that you witness. I've been playing for almost 8 months - I can't even tell you how many hours, probably averages out to 4-5 per day with a few weeks off here and there - and I am still seeing things happen that I never saw before. I would never see them at all, or see a lot less of them, if I made a habit of fast traveling.

Most people don't play a dimension shifting character, and therefore do consider fast travel a negative aspect when role playing.

There is no right or wrong way to RP, it's all personal choice and what feels right or fun to you and makes you feel like you are getting everything out of the game you have purchased.

Very true. That's why FT only when I feel I really must. (as I mentioned above, when I'm short with time and the distance is too large)

I dont use fast travel, but thats because morrowind is my favourite game (ill tell you why this is relevent).
And in morrowind, there was only boats and silt striders for fast travel, so when you had a mission to go somewhere, you'd get half lost and find 3 other dungeons on the way with a badass sidequest in one and a couple sweet new items. Then 6 hours later your at your destination. Thats why i dont fast travel. Though SOMETIMES ill fast travel if i get stuck somewhere or some weird reason.

Hello there PainOfDemise. Your nick is intriguing.

That is highly debatable, as one would certainly be able to integrate fast-travelling into a coherent RP experience. I think you're bound to miss out on some things if you just F-travel. The way I see it, it should come at a price. It should be turned into a spell that you cast and that costs you some pretty heavy magicka, heavier as you F-travel longer distances.