A fate worse than death?

Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:30 pm

I feel so bad on my non-lethal playthrough for giving Lady Boyle away to that guy. You're literally handing a stalker/potential rapist a vulnerable woman. Anybody else feel sorry for her, or feel sorry for any other targets?
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Chloe Botham
 
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:16 am

Dude.. i missed that. I just went in to one of the toilets and the blackdressed boyle was there, i slith her throught and left her hanging over the sink.. then i went on to the reddressed oned and shot her in the face in the middle of the party, people got upset and started screaming, guards came and started swordfighting me.. so i killed everyone... boy did that party die.

Should have left her to the stalker then... :ermm:
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Kat Stewart
 
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:16 am

She is used to it and it suits her. Corruption by six is what she has been doing since the death of her husband Lord Boyle.
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Shae Munro
 
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:20 pm

It's stated by the Outsider that she will live happily ever after with that guy.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:04 am

I feel so bad on my non-lethal playthrough for giving Lady Boyle away to that guy. You're literally handing a stalker/potential rapist a vulnerable woman. Anybody else feel sorry for her, or feel sorry for any other targets?
I feel like that for pretty much all of the non-lethals.
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Jerry Cox
 
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:14 pm

On one hand they should be happy they got to live at all, if they are so unhappy they could find someone to kill them or whatever. On the other hand there can be things worse than death as the saying goes, but you also have to keep in mind no one really knows what happens when you die. For all you know being [censored], burned, whipped and beaten everyday is better than death. But that's another discussion.

As for the stuff in the game I think it was meant to go with that whole trendy it's a gray area and ambiguous, aren't we cool kinda thing. Perhaps they wanted to make people think as well about would they rather die or have their head shaved, tongue cut out, and forced to do hard labor the rest of their life in bad conditions.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:23 pm

On one hand they should be happy they got to live at all, if they are so unhappy they could find someone to kill them or whatever. On the other hand there can be things worse than death as the saying goes, but you also have to keep in mind no one really knows what happens when you die. For all you know being [censored], burned, whipped and beaten everyday is better than death. But that's another discussion.

As for the stuff in the game I think it was meant to go with that whole trendy it's a gray area and ambiguous, aren't we cool kinda thing. Perhaps they wanted to make people think as well about would they rather die or have their head shaved, tongue cut out, and forced to do hard labor the rest of their life in bad conditions.

Props for the Code Geass avatar.

The non-lethal means of dealing with targets are fitting.

Making the leader of a religious cult a heretic, corrupt "nobles" who use slave labors turned into slaves and put to work in their own mines, Boyle with her love for freedom and the "finer things in life" taken away to be exploited as a simple six toy (most likely).

These are all people who refuse to face the reality of their own deeds, and we get to make them experience it. Poetic justice indeed.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:20 am

Most of the non lethal solutions are worse than death for most of the targets. Granted the targets like the Lord Regent and the Pendltons deserve their punishments. Lady Boyle might not have it that bad and Campbell even though he was probably just as bad as the others seems to get the worst punishment.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:24 pm

At least that guy truely loves her, and he promises not to hurt her.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:39 am

I wonder if he will roleplay in his mask. :teehee:
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:17 am

Most of the non lethal solutions are worse than death for most of the targets. Granted the targets like the Lord Regent and the Pendltons deserve their punishments. Lady Boyle might not have it that bad and Campbell even though he was probably just as bad as the others seems to get the worst punishment.

Both of them deserved it.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:34 am

Both of them deserved it.

They all deserve what they got but for some reason I felt a little sorry for Campbell.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:05 pm

They all deserve what they got but for some reason I felt a little sorry for Campbell.
Me too. And the note right near him...
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:12 pm

I think it's part of the story that Lady Boyle orchestrated the murder of Corvo's effective wife and the abduction of his child. They confirm after the mission she was involved. She's also involved in all manner of horrible dealings. Yes, it's an absolutely HORRIBLE thing to do to her but I think the "Mercy Options" aren't actually merciful.

They're pure Count of Monte Cristo acts of HATRED towards them that a relatively clean death isn't.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:09 am

They all deserve what they got but for some reason I felt a little sorry for Campbell.

Why? He was a corrupt leader of a religious cult ready to kill someone as Calista's uncle for even the smallest of matters. Not to mention that but he tells his overseers to kill everyone who they assume to be involved with witchcraft.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:41 am

Campbell, Pendleton Twins, and the Lord Regent are all pure evil. Campbell's a hypocrite too since he can't even claim to be a Knight Templar/Extremist because he practices black magic in his secret room.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:51 am

Why? He was a corrupt leader of a religious cult ready to kill someone as Calista's uncle for even the smallest of matters. Not to mention that but he tells his overseers to kill everyone who they assume to be involved with witchcraft.
But he was also going to do away with the Heretic's Brand, only keeping it in the case of truly corrupt officials, including, who he states by name, Lord Regent.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:46 pm

But he was also going to do away with the Heretic's Brand, only keeping it in the case of truly corrupt officials, including, who he states by name, Lord Regent.

Because he is a Heretic himself.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:22 pm

Why? He was a corrupt leader of a religious cult ready to kill someone as Calista's uncle for even the smallest of matters. Not to mention that but he tells his overseers to kill everyone who they assume to be involved with witchcraft.

Not to mention he was part of that little 'torture crew' who hurt you in all manners of ways for 6 months. If anything, Corvo must've been burnt a lot in that time, branding him was a small payback. Although, it's human nature to still feel sorry for people you hurt, which is why I have to mute the TV and look away as my character brands him otherwise I feel wretched. I'm weird, I guess.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:20 am

But he was also going to do away with the Heretic's Brand, only keeping it in the case of truly corrupt officials, including, who he states by name, Lord Regent.

He wouldn't get rid of Lord Regent for the right reasons. He'd do it to, most likely, advance his own position. And as strifecross said, he is a heretic himself, and therefore he wanted to enforce his own personal safety.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post. D:
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:48 pm

Why? He was a corrupt leader of a religious cult ready to kill someone as Calista's uncle for even the smallest of matters. Not to mention that but he tells his overseers to kill everyone who they assume to be involved with witchcraft.

I don't know why I felt sorry for him. Getting the Heretic's brand is punishment enough for him, becoming a weeper though makes me feel a little sorry for him, that seems like something that should have happened to Burrows.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:35 pm

Why? He was a corrupt leader of a religious cult ready to kill someone as Calista's uncle for even the smallest of matters. Not to mention that but he tells his overseers to kill everyone who they assume to be involved with witchcraft.

Just because someone isn't a good person doesn't mean we wouldn't feel pity on them
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:18 am

Anybody else feel sorry for her, or feel sorry for any other targets?
I'm the sort of person who feels sorry for everyone with a misfortune.

I feel everyone deserves a second chance, but that's just me.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:04 pm

Me too. And the note right near him...

...Sorry for Campbell? Really? After all the [censored] he did to you, after all the stuff he caused, after what the Overseers do as an organization and their practices? What note are you walking about, exactly, because the ones -I- found only implied he kills prosttutes after he's done with them and supposedly molested or tried to molest Emily. So after all that, was a bit hard to JUST brand him for me, to be honest, but true, in his case, death is too easy.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:49 am

I'm not sure why anyone would think the guy is a stalker or rapist. It seems like someone said that at some point, and everyone went on with it.
The guy almost sounded like a gentleman who truly loves Lady Boyle when he talked to Corvo. Not to mention the random Boyle woman will have a letter from him in her chambers, with the skeleton key for Dunwall Tower, implying she knows him and may even actually feels something for the guy too. It is written down somewhere ( in her journal maybe ) that she is only using the Lord Regent and doesn't love him at all. Corruption by six, indeed.

The Outsider tells us she will live a long life, but he doesn't tell if this will be a happy or unhappy life. Only sure thing is that she will very probably to live this life in reclusion, as this is her "last party".

I think she got a nice smooth exit from the story, but then again we aren't led to believe she took any part in Corvo's downfall. Rather in the Lord Regent's rise, which was the next step.

Campbell's fate was very deserved, as he is, simply put, a damn coldhearted bastard who doesn't give a crap about the cult he is leading. Just ask the Heart :P It's, like, the local Borgia.
The twins are corrupted, and I felt being given a taste of what they inflict to other people each day was a well-found move.
The Lord Regent is thrown in jail, but that's about it as far as we know. He'd deserved to be judged and hanged by the mob, but somehow it'd be a sweet ending for him. He is the guy that probably gets the easiest time... Or maybe not. That's the point : the bastard who did all this to us, planning everything from the beginning, and releasing the plague on the people, goes to jail and will be judged or something. Felt a bit anticlimatic, especially when his "tools" gets a much less desirable fate.


...Sorry for Campbell? Really? After all the [censored] he did to you, after all the stuff he caused, after what the Overseers do as an organization and their practices? What note are you walking about, exactly, because the ones -I- found only implied he kills prosttutes after he's done with them and supposedly molested or tried to molest Emily. So after all that, was a bit hard to JUST brand him for me, to be honest, but true, in his case, death is too easy.

I think he was refering to the note you find near his "weeper" form where he curses Corvo for what he did to him :P
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