Filling Grand Soul Gems : V

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:06 pm

Ok. I have the book, and it tells me that you may fill a Grand Soul Gem if the "creature" is above level 38.

Black Soul Gems in particular say "Fills with any Human soul"

Now my question. Mammoths are creatures, and they are exactly level 38.

Dragons are immune to Soul Trap spells or enchantments.

So, what is a sure-fire creature that will fill a Grand Soul Gem? I'm confused.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:31 pm

Giants would be one.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:59 pm

Giants would be one.

Excellent. Thank you for answering my question so hastily.

I'm sure you have filled a grand soul gem on a giant before? They are only level 32. As long as it works, that's what matters.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:22 am

can't you drop a soul gem on the ground and pick it back up and the soul will be gone? Like if you want a Grand Soul Gem to have a Grand soul but you only got a common soul in it. Then I think you can drop it on the ground and pick it back up and it'll be empty again. You could try this with a giant to make sure or the mammoth.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:24 am

Giants are Greater Souls. Mammoths are the only ones that I know are Grand Souls.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Giants are Greater Souls. Mammoths are the only ones that I know are Grand Souls.

Ah, I apologize for giving misleading information.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:26 am

can't you drop a soul gem on the ground and pick it back up and the soul will be gone? Like if you want a Grand Soul Gem to have a Grand soul but you only got a common soul in it. Then I think you can drop it on the ground and pick it back up and it'll be empty again. You could try this with a giant to make sure or the mammoth.

Wow really? I have never even thought about it. I will definately give it a try. Thanks for the info on that.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:27 am

Giants are Greater Souls. Mammoths are the only ones that I know are Grand Souls.

Ok so the Mammoths do indeed work? I appreciate the info. I never have been able to take on a group of Mammoths by myself yet, so I've never been able to do any practical research on it. Thanks again.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:02 am

Draugr death lords and above have grand souls

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:49 pm

Ok so the Mammoths do indeed work? I appreciate the info. I never have been able to take on a group of Mammoths by myself yet, so I've never been able to do any practical research on it. Thanks again.

Yep, the Mammoth is a Grand Soul. I double checked on the USEP. That is the only nonhuman Grand Soul that I know of. Maybe someone else can come up with another.

EDIT :

Draugr death lords and above have grand souls

Death Lords are Greater Souls

EDIT 2 : Draugr Death Overlords are Grand Souls

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:58 pm

Mammoths are the easiest to use to fill grand soul gems, unless you have the black star...."easiest" being relative of course

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:16 am

I won't kill a Mammoth, but have filled hundreds of Grand Soul gems with Falmer Shadowmasters and Draugrs.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:10 am

I appreciate the info guys. I think I'll just stick to mammoths just to be safe.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:32 pm

Yea, Mammoths are a sure fire and plenty of them. Actually, it's like shooting fish in a Bucket.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:20 pm

can't you drop a soul gem on the ground and pick it back up and the soul will be gone? Like if you want a Grand Soul Gem to have a Grand soul but you only got a common soul in it. Then I think you can drop it on the ground and pick it back up and it'll be empty again. You could try this with a giant to make sure or the mammoth.

Im fairly sure this doesn't work. Otherwise you would never find filled gems in ruins or stores.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:14 am

can't you drop a soul gem on the ground and pick it back up and the soul will be gone? Like if you want a Grand Soul Gem to have a Grand soul but you only got a common soul in it. Then I think you can drop it on the ground and pick it back up and it'll be empty again. You could try this with a giant to make sure or the mammoth.

It used to work...unless it was changed in patch 1.6/1.7

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:31 pm

Im fairly sure this doesn't work. Otherwise you would never find filled gems in ruins or stores.

It works, but not for every gem. It has something to do with the soul in the gem and the cost, or something. This only happens sometimes and it can also happen when they are placed in containers.

EDIT : http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Soul_Gem#Bugs

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:24 am

Yea, Mammoths are a sure fire and plenty of them. Actually, it's like shooting fish in a Bucket.

I'm going to start telling people "it's like shooting mammoths at a campfire"

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:58 am

can't you drop a soul gem on the ground and pick it back up and the soul will be gone? Like if you want a Grand Soul Gem to have a Grand soul but you only got a common soul in it. Then I think you can drop it on the ground and pick it back up and it'll be empty again. You could try this with a giant to make sure or the mammoth.

By the way, I tried dropping a Great Soul Gem on the floor and it didn't do anything. If there is a way to reset a wrongly filled soul gem though, I would be very interested in learning how to do that.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:55 pm

Im fairly sure this doesn't work. Otherwise you would never find filled gems in ruins or stores.

It only works with gems you filled. Gems you fin not so much. It's probably an intentional feature so that you can remove inferiour souls. J/s.

It works, but not for every gem. It has something to do with the soul in the gem and the cost, or something. This only happens sometimes and it can also happen when they are placed in containers.

EDIT : http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Soul_Gem#Bugs

Only factour is whether you filled it or found it last I checked.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim%3aSouls
Sort by soul size and look for the grands. Voila.

EDIT: In addition, here is a list of everything that CAN be a Grand soul, but you must be of the appropriate level yourself. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Skyrim-Souls-Grand

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:26 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim%3aSouls
Sort by soul size and look for the grands. Voila.

Thanks for the URL. I'm going to check it out right now.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:20 am

By the way, I tried dropping a Great Soul Gem on the floor and it didn't do anything. If there is a way to reset a wrongly filled soul gem though, I would be very interested in learning how to do that.

It has to be one you filled yourself.

» Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:47 pm

I just buy my sole gems pre-filled, so no worries.