Final Civil War rewards

Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:25 am

Does anyone else think it seems strange that after the Civil War questline, the only armor You get is the one of the enemy faction? What will an Imperial soldier do with Ulfrics clothes/Stormcloak Officers armor? Why can't I, as a Legate and specifically the person who made it all happen, get a reward worthy of my status? Same goes for the Stormcloaks. General Tullius Armor makes for a great Trophy but to use it in battle?
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Tracy Byworth
 
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Does anyone else think it seems strange that after the Civil War questline, the only armor You get is the one of the enemy faction? What will an Imperial soldier do with Ulfrics clothes/Stormcloak Officers armor? Why can't I, as a Legate and specifically the person who made it all happen, get a reward worthy of my status? Same goes for the Stormcloaks. General Tullius Armor makes for a great Trophy but to use it in battle?

The enemy armor you get is just loot like any other loot, something to be stripped from your dead foes and either sold or displayed as a trophy or worn if you so desire. It's not a reward in the sense of something being given to you by your superiors in recognition of a job well done. The reward (in terms of what you get from your own faction) is the weapon that Ulfric/Tullius gives you. Since you're basically released from "active duty" by your commander after the final battle it's probably unlikely that they would say "oh and let me hand you a shiny new uniform on the way out the door even though you're not under my command any more."

At least with the Stormcloaks you get an officer's "uniform" at the time of the last promotion which is the biggest reward in terms of armor that you're going to get as a Stormcloak soldier. I think the Imperial side is lacking something here because IIRC you get one set of armor when you join the Legion and that's it, which I agree kinda svcks. Seems like I should've gotten something a little shinier as a Legate.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:13 am

Well I know it's not the real reward but it feels just silly. Tullius's armor is probably the best looking Imperial armor ingame, and it's Heavy!
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:16 am

And let's not forget, that you also get to claim Hjerim as a residence and can become Thane of Windhelm. So, you're given a weapon of honor, and the right to purchase a property and obtain a noble title that would otherwise be unavailable to you in the game. IMO, Hjerim is right up there with Proudspire Manor in Solitude, and while you can purchase it a little in advance of the questline's completion on the Stormcloak side, the thane title is only offered once you've completely finished the questline no matter whose side you chose.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:26 am

Well I just used a console to get teh armor and renamed it Imperial Dragon Armor... but its shouldn't be this way :confused: . And what about the X360/PS3 players? They can't do the same...
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:16 pm

Well I know it's not the real reward but it feels just silly. Tullius's armor is probably the best looking Imperial armor ingame, and it's Heavy!

Yeah, it looks great hanging on a mannequin in my trophy room. :D

But if you think about it, it wouldn't be realistic for your commander in either case to give you a set of armor identical to his just because you helped him win the war. "I really valued your assistance, oooooh I know, let's dress alike and then people will know we're totally BFFs cuz nobody else wears this but us!" :P

And let's not forget, that you also get to claim Hjerim as a residence and can become Thane of Windhelm. So, you're given a weapon of honor, and the right to purchase a property and obtain a noble title that would otherwise be unavailable to you in the game. IMO, Hjerim is right up there with Proudspire Manor in Solitude, and while you can purchase it a little in advance of the questline's completion on the Stormcloak side, the thane title is only offered once you've completely finished the questline no matter whose side you chose.

Not quite correct, if you take the Stormcloak side you can become Thane before the war is finished; it's either at the same point where you get permission to buy the house, or the next time you report to Ulfric. You may have to re-engage him in conversation after all the stuff about your current/next assignment is out of the way, but if the title is available you'll have the option to ask if there's anything else he needs and he'll go through the usual Jarl spiel about what's required in order for him to give you the title. If you've already met all the specs, just disengage and re-engage and tell him so and you're in like Flynn. :)
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:11 pm

Well not the same armor, but maybe a different color or something...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:09 am

Well not the same armor, but maybe a different color or something...

Oh, I can make that wish come true... just play as a female character who joins the Legion. Kill Ulfric, take his gear, put it on, and you'll find yourself dressed in what looks *something* like Ulfric's clothes except in hideous washed-out and/or pastel colors and with some items either missing, clipping badly, or totally unrecognizable, I couldn't tell which. Lemme tell you, when 99% of your motivation for playing pro-Imperial is to loot Ulfric and try on his clothes, that TOTALLY svckS.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:42 pm

I play a female character and I knwo what You mean...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:32 am

Yeah, it's like the outfits that are a practical-looking shirt/pants combo on a dude but automatically become dresses when a female PC/NPC wears them. Granted I wear armor most of the time, but the non-armor apparel options for the lay-deez is just abysmal IMO. And when I couldn't even wear a unique set of clothes like Ulfric's without them warping all out of recognition, it was kinda the last straw. Pretty sure I tried on Tullius' armor once and it didn't do that, it just "adjusted" itself to fit a female body shape.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:10 pm

And let's not forget, that you also get to claim Hjerim as a residence and can become Thane of Windhelm. So, you're given a weapon of honor, and the right to purchase a property and obtain a noble title that would otherwise be unavailable to you in the game. IMO, Hjerim is right up there with Proudspire Manor in Solitude, and while you can purchase it a little in advance of the questline's completion on the Stormcloak side, the thane title is only offered once you've completely finished the questline no matter whose side you chose.

You don't need to beat the civil war to get Hjerim.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:26 pm

I felt the same way, which is why I gave myself Tullius' armor after completing the Civil War for the Imperial side, via the console.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:07 pm

I felt the same way, which is why I gave myself Tullius' armor after completing the Civil War for the Imperial side, via the console.
The armor gives crap protection but damn... it looks good.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:52 pm

You don't need to beat the civil war to get Hjerim.

True, but only if you join the Stormcloaks, in which case the house will be available before the war is over. It's not available at all, ever, if you don't join one side or the other.

Unless you're talking about using the house without buying it, in which case you can do whatever you can get away with I guess.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:41 am

You don't need to beat the civil war to get Hjerim.
If you support the Imperials you do.

As for the topic, I thought the reward was defeating the other side in the war.
Not a glorious rewards but what do you expect a soldier to get?
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:54 pm

I hate the civil war,it falls flat on all fronts,this is why I hope there is dlc to extend it/add thalmor in or something.There is no reward for leading your side to victory,which,I guess I can live with out.What I hate is that there is literaly no change afterward,except the color of the guards,red or blue.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:14 am

"I really valued your assistance, oooooh I know, let's dress alike and then people will know we're totally BFFs cuz nobody else wears this but us!" :tongue:
Really? :lol:


...the non-armor apparel options for the lay-deez is just abysmal IMO. And when I couldn't even wear a unique set of clothes like Ulfric's without them warping all out of recognition, it was kinda the last straw. Pretty sure I tried on Tullius' armor once and it didn't do that, it just "adjusted" itself to fit a female body shape.
Well, there's always the Tavern Clothes (that's more for dudes though :P). The Noble's Clothes, Emperor's Robes, and Fur-Trimmed Cloak look kinda' cute. :confused:
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:42 pm

Really? :lol:

No, not really. What I think should happen is that Tullius/Ulfric should unequip his own apparel right then and there, give it to you, and then walk all the way back to Solitude/Windhelm in his loincloth. Because invincible non-milkdrinking warriors don't need armor, dammit! :P

Well, there's always the Tavern Clothes (that's more for dudes though :tongue:). The Noble's Clothes, Emperor's Robes, and Fur-Trimmed Cloak look kinda' cute. :confused:

Eh, I just don't like the ladies' versions of any of the "fine" apparel that is readily available to loot and/or buy. It's all down to personal preference but the colors are just ugly IMO. The stuff in colors I can tolerate is either raggedy looking or just basic robes. I usually end up doing all my "at home" business in a blacksmith's apron and shoes.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:54 pm

No, not really. What I think should happen is that Tullius/Ulfric should unequip his own apparel right then and there, give it to you, and then walk all the way back to Solitude/Windhelm in his loincloth. Because invincible non-milkdrinking warriors don't need armor, dammit! :tongue:
Oh, I knew he didn't really say that. I just meant: did you really have to go there? :P We could SPAM Facebook and make pages for our characters and Bethesda could make pages for the NPCs and we could all friend the Stormcloak/Imperial sides as we choose. :rofl:

Eh, I just don't like the ladies' versions of any of the "fine" apparel that is readily available to loot and/or buy. It's all down to personal preference but the colors are just ugly IMO. The stuff in colors I can tolerate is either raggedy looking or just basic robes. I usually end up doing all my "at home" business in a blacksmith's apron and shoes.
Yeah, the colors aren't great. My biggest problem is that the most feminine looking clothing is kinda' tattered and/or dirty. :confused: The Nobles Clothes and the Fur-Trimmed Cloak are semi-form-fitting, but most the clothes are boring or just hang off of the female characters. :o
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:11 am

Oh, I knew he didn't really say that. I just meant: did you really have to go there? :tongue: We could SPAM Facebook and make pages for our characters and Bethesda could make pages for the NPCs and we could all friend the Stormcloak/Imperial sides as we choose. :rofl:

Facebook? GET REAL MAN. What I really want to see is Tullius and Ulfric duking it out in a war of misspelled, ridiculously abbreviated words and 'net slang via their respective Twitter accounts.


Yeah, the colors aren't great. My biggest problem is that the most feminine looking clothing is kinda' tattered and/or dirty. :confused: The Nobles Clothes and the Fur-Trimmed Cloak are semi-form-fitting, but most the clothes are boring or just hang off of the female characters. :ohmy:

DItto on the tattered and dirty thing. I know it's been said elsewhere, but it's like you can't even BUY new and clean casual clothes in Skyrim. At least a blacksmith's apron is something that should be somewhat grungy, and on my current character I've been able to loot several of them and some shoes to go with them, so it's not like I ever had a new and clean one to wear.

Sadly - unless things have changed recently - most mods for female apparel seem to focus on getting the lay-deez in something as skimpy as possible rather than on reasonable and attractive "lore-friendly" choices.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:39 pm

Facebook? GET REAL MAN. What I really want to see is Tullius and Ulfric duking it out in a war of misspelled, ridiculously abbreviated words and 'net slang via their respective Twitter accounts.
3v3n b8tr! :lol



Sadly - unless things have changed recently - most mods for female apparel seem to focus on getting the lay-deez in something as skimpy as possible rather than on reasonable and attractive "lore-friendly" choices.
Yeah, it's for the guys. :tongue: I always like dressing up my chick characters in cute clothes in games like these (Fable, Saint's Row, etc). It's usually $lutty, but they aren't always 90% naked. :lol:
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:50 pm

The armor gives crap protection but damn... it looks good.

You're talking to a guy who didn't realize there was 5 levels to add +20% power to his one-handed sword till about level 45, lol. I do have the Tullius armor upgraded, but only to something like (Fine). I still ended up increasing the difficulty though, to one below master as I was a one man killing machine.
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