Flames and Firebolt damage is too high : V

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:00 am

http://i43.tinypic.com/103egx4.jpg

Not really too high but more than its supposed to.
This is with the fire perk 2/2. Firebolt originally lists for 25 damage, flames originally lists for 8 damage, fireball originally lists for 40.

Dunno what the hell is going on.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:30 am

Gentlemen, I am off to go play a Mage....

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:49 am

Wait.... how did you do that?

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:19 pm

I'm gonna say you used +Fortify alchemy gear and drank the +Fortify Alchemy potion, to raise your alchemy skill to epic proportions. Then you created an extremely powerful Fortify Destruction potion and drank it.

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:36 pm

I'm gonna say you used +Fortify alchemy gear and drank the +Fortify Alchemy potion, to raise your alchemy skill to epic proportions. Then you created an extremely powerful Fortify Destruction potion and drank it.

Well now, fortify destruction potion actually adds damage? Not just makes it cost less..?

Hmm. That is a possibility I guess.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:56 pm

It adds damage

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:15 pm

Well now, fortify destruction potion actually adds damage? Not just makes it cost less..?

Oh you got a point there.

There could be a potion that increases fire damage or something.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:10 am

Oh you got a point there.

There could be a potion that increases fire damage or something.

There are potions that directly increase the damage of all destruction magic.

Either that or the game does calculate for higher ranks of perks, and his are bugged somehow. This seems most likely, because the +damage perks do not work on fire rune or flame cloak, which is the case here. I think potions do affect them though, but I'm not sure.

Also these multipliers are bizzard. Flames does about 3.5x base damage, while firebolt does about 2x. Bizzare.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:49 am

Or the OP can just stop feigning incredulity and tell everyone how he did it.

» Sun May 13, 2012 6:45 pm

Active effects are Mage Stone and Claws. Neither boost damage.

My frost and shock effects list correctly.

I did not drink a potion or anything like that.

I am completely naked and the stats stay the same.

Flames is listed as my favorite spell, and i'm sure firebolt is a close second. I've never used fireball much at all however.

I tried reproducing this on a new character and can't do it. May be a bug?

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:02 am

...helluva bug...0_o

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:35 pm

Active effects are Mage Stone and Claws. Neither boost damage.

My frost and shock effects list correctly.

I did not drink a potion or anything like that.

I am completely naked and the stats stay the same.

Flames is listed as my favorite spell, and i'm sure firebolt is a close second. I've never used fireball much at all however.

I tried reproducing this on a new character and can't do it. May be a bug?

Did it assign your perk points into the fire perk correctly?
That's the only thing I can think of the modifies fire damage in this manner, especially considering runes and cloak are unaffected.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:35 am

Runes and cloak don't seem to work on any damage type. It says 2/2 in the destruction perk tree.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:11 am

Did they only change this high after you bought the perk, or have they been like this since before that?

I kind of want to reproduce this, lol.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:46 pm

I was definitely after buying the perk, I don't know when I noticed it. For a while I just thought that fire did more damage but then I looked up online and saw that flames is supposed to do 8 damage and was like holy [censored] it does nearly 4 times that much.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:14 am

I had a similar bug with stats, which turned my ~150% magicka regen into something like 1000%, basically recharging my mana instantly when I casted anything.

It fixed itself after a while, but bethesda should definitely look into that, no idea if it happens the other way around aswell, but that could seriously break some people's games.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:50 am

Did you edit this picture? If not, I want!

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:55 am

Now that you mention it, I did have that magica regen bug too. It actually regened while charging a spell too right?

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:27 pm

I was definitely after buying the perk, I don't know when I noticed it. For a while I just thought that fire did more damage but then I looked up online and saw that flames is supposed to do 8 damage and was like holy [censored] it does nearly 4 times that much.

You've done pretty well there! Mine are about 8 and 38 respectively, having been fully perked up

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:39 pm

You've done pretty well there! Mine are about 8 and 38 respectively, having been fully perked up

Your flames should be doing 12. Looks like you're bugged, also.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:33 am

why not using flames ? Firebolt is uselss to me.

Flames : 27 every second, Cost 4
Firebolt: 52. Cost 12.

2xFlames does the same damage and costs 1/3 less ? There is something definitely wrong.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:43 pm

Firebolt has a higher range ^^ Also, if you have enough magicka/high enough regeneration, double firebolt does more damage.

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:49 pm

why not using flames ? Firebolt is uselss to me.

Flames : 27 every second, Cost 4
Firebolt: 52. Cost 12.

2xFlames does the same damage and costs 1/3 less ? There is something definitely wrong.

That is now how the spells should work.

Max flames damn should be 12/second.
Max firebolt damage is 37 per blast.
Normally firebolt has considerably better DPS.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:07 am

This game is very buggy..

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:56 pm

Your flames should be doing 12. Looks like you're bugged, also.

Oh [censored]! That's not fair. Mine's even lower than it should be!