Hello:
We got serious problems here folks! Lets start with the below list:

1st, in order to install the game which was paid for, I had to install an online service that blows period. Neither am I interested in online play. This should have been an option, not forced. Forcing people to install stuff that they do not want is not good folks, and this will be remember next round.
2nd, During the login to STEAM, I was NEVER given an option to choose where I want the game installed? WTF STEAM!!! are you kidding me? I dont put anything on my "C:\" and I should'nt have been forced to install the game there either!!!
3rd, When I clicked cancel, because I dont want this [censored] on my cdrive, the phucking install process got hosed, and I have spent the last 20 minutes waiting for STEAM to validate something?

Bethesda,
Let me explain something to you. I understand you dont want people pirating your game, no problem. But this launch, with all the forced issued and the baggage that went along with it is just horrible.
The bad news here is that, I will share this experience with others, I may bring the game back, and I probably will not touch another Bethesda game ever again.

Thx!

Mike

I think Steam's great.

What are you going to to do about it? You can't muahahahahaha.

I like Steam. Mainly because they do have nice specials every week and the community.

I WON'T BUY A GAME ON PC FOR THIS REASON I SHOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE DAMN GAME AND GO. STEAM CAN KISS MY ***

Not only was that a fairly rude post, but you're missing the OP's point.

Anyways: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1258551-unofficial-steamdrm-discussion/

Easily fixed by installing steam somewhere other than c:/

Imo, steam is the best thing to happen to pc gaming, was getting sick of having to constantly follow every game and download and install patches manually as well as having to throw discs in all the time to play them or try and find a no-cd crack. Ever since i got half life 2 when it came out i have been getting all my games through steam except a rare few that weren't on there that i wanted to get really bad. (blizzard games for example)

Its the obligatory 'I dont like Steam' thread! And here the obligatory 'Cool story bro' reply.

If you don't like Steam and don't wanna use it, don't buy Skyrim. Sorry dude, but It says it right there on the box that it needs Steam. And more and more games are using Steam.
Myself, i can't see whats so bad about it. I've never had any trouble with it, nor any game that needs it.

I preordered the game, it installed through steam. I was a bit annoyed by it, sure. I'll just make sure, in a few years time, when I no longer have the disc copy, I'll get the game by other means and I won't need steam. And that's Bethesda's own fault.

Don't like steam? Don't want to use steam? Stop buying games with the steam or steamworks logo on it.

Companies only function if they can make profits, and they can only make profits if people actually use their services and pay them. If companies stop making a profit, then they either go bankrupt when they run out of money, or they change what they are doing so people will buy from them.

So, don't want to have to install steam? Don't play games that use it. If enough people stop buying stuff on steam, then companies will no longer see profits in it, and find something else. Buy it, and then coming here to complain, does nothing to encourage companies to stop using it.



(My copy was purchased on Steam. I love steam. I can't remember the last time I've purchased a game from somewhere else.)
Why do I like steam? Because I don't like going to play a game and then find out that my game is out of date for all the servers. I don't like looking for my disks and having to swap them, or having to worry that they have gotten scratched. A friend, in the UK, bought Skyrim for me, and I was playing it on launch day. I live in Canada. I have purchased gifts for friends over steam, and not had to worry about a parcel getting there before their birthday. (Or forgetting a friend's birthday, and then buying them some cheap game that happened to have randomly been on sale that day.)

Steam works great. Currently it is taking 103,564K memory, but I have 16GB so I really don't care.

There is a setting on steam to install games where you want. Also, your blind hatred of steam is silly. Steam was used for security reasons, get over it.

I agree, and most will agree that Steam is a huge pile of crap!!! I hate the pop ups from Steam. Why should I or anybody else be forced to see pop ups from a program that we were FORCED to install just so we could play our game? Its BS Bethesda!

Nicely said friend.

I hear a lot of people declare that Steam is terrible but they rarely say why, what do you think is so bad about it?

This was a reason (though not the only and certainly not the biggest) why I decided to buy on the X-Box 360 and not PC.

Steam is magnificent.

If you think Steam svcks now, you should have been using it back in 2003.

[censored] still gives me Vietnam-like flashbacks...

Gosh, this subject never came up before on the forums.

Oh. Wait.

There is an ongoing Steam discussion in Community Discussion forums, feel free to post your throught - MINUS the censor avoidance and the incredibly crude and childish personal attack I removed. But keep your feedback civil and constructive. Thanks.

Incidentally, Steam is installed on my F: drive, not my C: drive. So it can be installed where you decide.