» Sat May 04, 2013 10:43 pm
The continuation thread for the Game of Thrones TV series and 'A Song of Ice and Fire' books.
Wiki links to the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_song_of_ice_and_fire
Link to the previous thread:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1455476-game-of-thrones-asoiaf-thread-3/
From the previous thread:
This quoting nonsense is a pain.
» Sun May 05, 2013 7:32 am
How large was Robert's army during the Rebellion and I mean just Robert and his bannermen not Eddard and Tywin's armies....The Army that won at the Trident can't have been more than 10,000 strong or I'm I underestimating their strength?
» Sat May 04, 2013 11:14 pm
I'm not sure, but I'd imagine their main reason they won on the Trident was the slaying of Rhaegar Targaryen. I mean, when you see your general/king/prince/who ever is leading the charge, die, it's a SERIOUS morale dropper.
» Sun May 05, 2013 7:39 am
The North (north of the neck and the Trident) is the largest province in Westeros. I can't remember exactly where, but it is stated that the lands that Eddard ruled over is more land than any other fiefdom in Westeros combined. When Robb seceded from the nation of Westeros he technically had the largest nation (landwise) at his command. That included the lands of Riverrun which pledged their loyalty to the king in the north because of the the marriage of Catelyn and Eddard. Where the problem arises, though, is that the Northern lands may be the most expansive, but they are also the most uninhabited. Robb has the most expansive and hardest to conquer lands, but that also means he had one of the least manned nations in Westeros.
IIRC Robb had about 3000 to 4000 men when he took the whispering wood and captured Jaime (a surprise attack, remember), which were only a fraction of his total forces. He left many forces behind in that assault to defend the trident and the kings road north of the neck. If you only count the people who are truly loyal to the North and the Starks I'd say that Robb Stark has at least 30,000 men at his command, but they are not all at the same place at the same time (something that the tv show doesn't convey very well). One of the main reasons Joffrey changes his wedding vows from marrying Sansa to marrying Margaery Tyrell is that he needed the Tyrell numbers to have a larger army than any other in westeros.
EDIT: I was thinking you were talking about Robb Stark, not Baratheon. The thing you have to consider though, is that Eddards army WAS Roberts army. When the war started they were in the same place at the same time, with the same stakes placed on both their heads (literally). The Lannisters did not enter the war until Eddard and Robert had all but taken the throne. Tywin didn't join the war until Rhaegar was dead. That's one of the points of contention between the Starks and the Lannisters. Eddard was always wary of the Lannisters because they did not enter the war until Robert was on the edge of Victory. Remember, the Lannister Bannermen got into king's landing because they lied and said the were coming to HELP Aerys, but sacked the city once the gates were opened to them. Lannister Bannermen, just like Frey bannermen, Didn't fight fight in the war until victory was already basically decided for Roberts side.
» Sun May 05, 2013 1:34 pm
Sharing a hilarious http://apt46.net/wp-content/upload/grrm-jkr.png, making me wish GRRM had written Harry Potter.
» Sun May 05, 2013 1:26 pm
Found the first four books on Amazon boxed together for $20 so I went ahead and ordered them.
I see three different versions of A Dance With Dragons though. One just says A Dance With Dragons, one also says Dreams and Dust Part 1, and the other says After the Feast Part 2. I assume I would just want the first one, as the other two are just the same book but split into two parts, no?
» Sun May 05, 2013 4:02 am
I believe the UK version of book 5 is split into two halves, like book 3. Not sure why because here in the US all 5 books are whole. Publication limits I guess?
After the Feast is where the events in book 4 "end" while you're reading book 5 since they take place at the same time. So the 2nd half or so of book 5 is one thread again.
