On the Rage website it states it is a Games for Windows Live PC game, but it isn't listed on the Games for Windows Live website. Does anyone know if this game supports Games for Windows Live achivements for gamerscore? Steam Forums and Games for Windows Live forums are both no help and I can't seem to get a straight answer.

It's a Steamworks game; not Games for Windows - Live!

Games for Windows and Games for Windows - Live! are not the same thing. Games for Windows - Live! specifically states that it uses the Live! application by Microsoft, whereas the other is just a fancy sticker on the top of the box.

It is unknown at this moment if the PC version will have achievements.

Games For Windows (Which is what it will actually say on the site) and Games For Windows LIVE (Denoted by a small blue LIVE logo) are two different things.

Games For Windows (No LIVE logo) means its a game designed for Windows.

Games For Windows LIVE means it uses the LIVE functionality. ie: the poor mans Steam.


The Achivements for PC will be tracked on Steam itself using it's system.

it's NOT LIVE

achivements are already integrated into the game - no reason to use Steam achivements other than pissing gamers off because i wan't no naggies with steam.

Games for Windows

Games for Windows Live

A huge difference between the two

No, it won't use the Games for Windows Live client

Yes it has its own Steam cheevo's, just finished preloading the game last night

Thanks for the answers guys. That cleared up what I was thinking. Xbox it is. Take care