Giant & Mammoth glitch? : V

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:16 am

So I've been watching a bit of gameplay and I noticed that whenever someone is walking though the land and comes near a giant or mammoth, they suddenly turn into hostiles and attack the character. Todd said that they were neutral AI's unless engaged in battle. Can anyone explain why they're randomly attacking?

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:28 am

I believe they attack if they feel they themselves or their herds are threatened. So while they won't attack on sight, if you get too close to them they will turn on you. At least that is how I understand it.

» Tue May 15, 2012 2:37 pm

The mammoths are the giant's herd - they're like giant itinerant farmers. And they'll protect their flock

http://penny-arcade.com/comic

» Tue May 15, 2012 9:44 am

I believe they attack if they feel they themselves or their herds are threatened. So while they won't attack on sight, if you get too close to them they will turn on you. At least that is how I understand it.

In the original gameplay videos Todd walked right up to the mammoth and it didn't attack him until he hit it.
Do you think they have just changed this feature, or had it solely like this for the footage?

» Tue May 15, 2012 5:38 pm

The mammoths are the giant's herd - they're like giant itinerant farmers. And they'll protect their flock

http://penny-arcade.com/comic

You've misread my post. I said when you're just passing by them. The gameplay that I've been watching shows the character walking right passed them and then the mammoths and giants engage in battle.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:04 am

In the original gameplay videos Todd walked right up to the mammoth and it didn't attack him until he hit it.
Do you think they have just changed this feature, or had it solely like this for the footage?

I hope they didn't do that. I would be fairly disappointed with that. I hope it's just a bug or something like that, that'll get fixed with the day 1 patch.

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:23 pm

In the original gameplay videos Todd walked right up to the mammoth and it didn't attack him until he hit it.
Do you think they have just changed this feature, or had it solely like this for the footage?

Good point. Perhaps some giants are more lenient than others?

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:02 pm

Good point. Perhaps some giants are more lenient than others?

Maybe the player had a bad reputation with the giants from attacking them previously so they saw him as aggressive?

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:43 pm

Confirming they turn hostile if you get too close.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:44 am

Did you ever consider that there might be different kinds of AI for giants? Some might be hostile towards the player while others are not.

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 am

Every giant ive been too close to so far instantly goes into rage-mode.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:00 am

thats not a glitch that is meant to happen if you get too close

» Tue May 15, 2012 1:25 pm

are you approaching with a weapon drawn?

» Tue May 15, 2012 7:27 pm

are you approaching with a weapon drawn?

No

» Tue May 15, 2012 8:13 pm

There was one video where the guy ran up to a giant and it was friendly for about 15 seconds until he tried killing it, then the giant killed him with one hit

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:08 pm

I remember the demo video of the player walking up cloe to the giants without getting attacked until he attacked.
Maybe it was a change or maybe there are indeed different AI behaviors depending on which area you are in, which tribe etc..

Even if it was a change across the board, is it really such a dreadful change to warrant cries of " I WANT AN EXPLANATION!!!"

Maybe i'm overly sensitive nowadays.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:40 am

If I'm not mistaken in the video Todd says that not all NPC's will be aggressive to you until you attack first. Maybe the ones your running up against are aggressive instead of passive like other NPC?

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:07 pm

Yeah, I think pretty much you might have a reputation from the giants(i.e you've killed giants before, so they don't like you, maybe?) or the only other thing that would make sense is just that the giants are individually different, and some may or may not attack you on sight. I don't think that Todd Howard or Bethesda is so cheap they'd put in a feature just for a video demo, and also claim that they don't attack you as well.

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:02 am

From my experience: They don't turn hostile.... unless weapon drawn and walking into them.

Spoiler

However don't enter giant settlements, there is one pretty close to Riverwood and on low levels you can kiss your life goodbye, since they almost immediately turn hostile. Read: low level means one hit kill