GPU Transcode is SLI muti video card related

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:42 am

GPU Transcode is deffently SLI or muti video card related. I pulled one of my GTX480's.
On a single GTX480 I was able to enable GPU Transcode instantly.
Not only was I able to do that but the game actually ran better. For instance with 2x video cards
anytime I came off the hwy turning the curve at Northren Watch Tower I would get some lag and loss of FPS. Pretty bad at times.
With a single GTX480 it ran smooth with no loss of FPS when making that same turn.
So Rage deffently has problems in code or something when running muti video cards.
id Please have a look into this to see if there is a way to fix this, as I don't want to have to revove a video card
just to get this game to run as it is suppose to. Then have to replace it to play my other games or run benchmarks.
Since I save GPU Transcode enabled I had hoped it would still be once I added back the 2nd card, but it was back disabled. Edit: also got the same error when trying to enable it with 2 cards.
I did forget to run the benchmark with the single card, so I can't say how much it would help. I do know max score I get is 109
with dual video cards. Since this is a bench setup rig its not much trouble to remove and replace the 2nd vcard.
I'll pull it again in a few mins. so I can run the bench with a single card to see how scores fair. Be back soon with a report.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:21 pm

Update: with GPU Transcode enabled and single GTX480 I get a bench score of 281 vs 109 with 2xGTX480's and GPU Transcode disabled.
Also the GPU Transcode was enable still when I when back to a single card, another words I didn't have to re-enable it.
Seems it saves the setting when a single video card is inatalled but auto disables it once the 2nd card is place back.
I guess this could also be a parts of the driver fault and not just the game? Anyways I hope someone can give some answers
or maybe even a fix. It'd be nice to be able to play the game as intented without having to remove a video card just to do so.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:00 am

Post your dxdiag according the format in this thread:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1345226-gpu-transcoding-post-your-spec-if-you-cant-activate-it/

Sparse threads and informations doesn't help the situation.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:36 pm

Considering that id had several months to fix this for inclusion into the latest patch yet didn't, I don't hold out much hope that it will ever be fixed.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:33 am

What would be nice is if the 2nd card could be put to some use with this game instead of some how causing loss of performance.
As we all should know people buy a 2nd video card to get a advantage in performance when playing games or other things, not loose it.
Or at least some how make this game think there is only one video card installed so it plays as only one is in use.
There is quite a nice jump in game play/performance once one of the cards is removed.

Any solution in the works to fix this id, gamesas or Nvidia?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:32 am

Nvidia has said that alternate frame rendering is impossible with Rage. So no SLI.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:37 am

Alternate frame rendering may not be a runner, but offloading transcodes for the next frame to the second card while the current frame is drawing on the first should be possible. It may need a driver revision and/or a custom extension, and may require too much code disruption to do in any kind of short term (believe it or not, enabling SLI in a program involves a hell of a lot more than just a call to SetSLIMode (true)), but it would be a nice thing to do.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:10 pm

Alternate frame rendering may not be a runner, but offloading transcodes for the next frame to the second card while the current frame is drawing on the first should be possible. It may need a driver revision and/or a custom extension, and may require too much code disruption to do in any kind of short term (believe it or not, enabling SLI in a program involves a hell of a lot more than just a call to SetSLIMode (true)), but it would be a nice thing to do.

Ya this is more of what I was asking about. I'm sure none of it is easy, well I really don't know since I don't know anything much about coding.
It would be nice if something could be offloaded to the second card or some use of it in some way to help out with the performance of Rage
instead of hindering the games performance when you have a second video card.

Edit: heck I'd settle for a fix to make it think there is only one video card installed at least while playing Rage.
Because the difference is like day and night for my setup once I drop to only one video card.
But hey after paying the retail price for 2xGTX480's I'd like to at least be able to use them both at other times, so pulling one just to play this game is really not a option.
Don't take that wrong because the game is playable with two video cards installed, but plays so much smoother with only one. <= "just think about that last line" it doesn't even sound correct. lol
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:27 am

I'm also running a dual 480 setup. Same issue except I also have a gtx 560 installed. And when not playing games (which most days i don't) my rig runs the Folding at Home APP from Stanford U. It isn't feasable by any means for me to have to remove , then replace my cards. I am very disapointed in Rage. I expected far more from it all the way around. Been an id fan since I downloded the "chapters" for the original DooM way back when. This may be the last id game i ever buy.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:02 am

I'm also running a dual 480 setup. Same issue except I also have a gtx 560 installed. And when not playing games (which most days i don't) my rig runs the Folding at Home APP from Stanford U. It isn't feasable by any means for me to have to remove , then replace my cards. I am very disapointed in Rage. I expected far more from it all the way around. Been an id fan since I downloded the "chapters" for the original DooM way back when. This may be the last id game i ever buy.
Ya I do folding at home as well with not only this rig but many others. So pulling a video card is not good just to get this game to run as smooth as it should.
Sure I could run it on another one of my many computers, but this is the one I have setup as my main computer, the others are just mainly for fold.
So I don't go threw a lot of trouble setting those up with all the stuff I would a normally use every day computer. "daily driver" as some like to call it.
Hack I have a couple 6 core 12 TH rigs, 980x & E5645 that would probably play this much better than this 2600K, but they do work units much better/faster.
Both of those are overclocked to 4.2Ghz both have GTX260's one with dual GTX260's. When I'm not playing games I like to enter overclocking contest or http://hwbot.org/user/the_wolf/ for boints.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:30 am

Any news on this issue? Will it be fixed in the next patch? We don't really need a 64 bit executable if SLI configurations have this issue.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:03 am

Any news on this issue? Will it be fixed in the next patch? We don't really need a 64 bit executable if SLI configurations have this issue.

No it's unlikely. As SLI is not possible with Rage it can't be fixed. Nvidia cannot create an SLI profile for a game where alternate frame rendering does not work.

As to the rest ... don't hold your breath.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:54 am

No it's unlikely. As SLI is not possible with Rage it can't be fixed. Nvidia cannot create an SLI profile for a game where alternate frame rendering does not work. As to the rest ... don't hold your breath.

Not asking for SLI to be enable or to be able to use it in game. There is a loss in performance just by having a second video card.

GPU Transcode can not be enabled if you have SLI, you take a big hit in performance by not being able to enable GPU Transcode.
We shouldn't have to pull a video card just to be able to use this option "GPU Transcode".

Next time try reading and understanding what you read before posting. This is twice you posted this same thing,
I looked over your ignorance the first time, but had to say something this time. Butt out.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:11 am

Not asking for SLI to be enable or to be able to use it in game. There is a loss in performance just by having a second video card.

GPU Transcode can not be enabled if you have SLI, you take a big hit in performance by not being able to enable GPU Transcode.
We shouldn't have to pull a video card just to be able to use this option "GPU Transcode".

Next time try reading and understanding what you read before posting. This is twice you posted this same thing,
I looked over your ignorance the first time, but had to say something this time. Butt out.

You said in the post I replied to:
"We don't really need a 64 bit executable if SLI configurations have this issue."

As SLI is not possible there is no SLI configuration at all.

Is English your first language?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:28 am

You said in the post I replied to:
"We don't really need a 64 bit executable if SLI configurations have this issue."

As SLI is not possible there is no SLI configuration at all.

Is English your first language?

No sorry you have me messed up with someone else post, plus I think you misunderstood what they were saying. BTW my user name is not "http://www.gamesas.com/user/510187-mjordan/" lol
In this thread no one is asking for SLI to be enabled. Never have and you can't show a post in this thread that does, other than your very own post.

Perhaps you should ask your own self this question: Is English my first language? lol

As for this : As SLI is not possible there is no SLI configuration at all.

You must not Own more than one video card that are the same and in use within the same system/computer?
First off yes the game Rage doesn't support SLI in game "you got that part right" ,
but there are problems with this game Rage and systems/computers that has SLI configurations!
Rage should support system that has SLI configurations weather its in use or not without causing loss of frame rate and playability.
GPU Transcode should be able to be used in these same systems that have SLI, as it stands we that have SLI systems can not enable GPU Transcode.

This is the whole point of this thread GPU Transcode and not being able to use it with a system that has 2 or more video cards that are the same within it.

If the above doesn't help you understand what's going on within this thread, you may need to seek a Doctor's help.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:26 am

As for this : As SLI is not possible there is no SLI configuration at all.

You must not Owen more than one video card that are the same and in use within

the same system/computer

I own two GTX 460 cards. Who is Owen and what has he to do with this?

?
First off yes the game Rage doesn't support SLI in game "you got that part right" ,
but there are problems with this game Rage and systems/computers that has SLI configurations!

I suppose you mean two cards. It's not SLI till they work together, as this is not possible in Rage, there is no SLI.


Rage should support system that has SLI configurations weather its in use or not without causing loss of frame rate and playability.
GPU Transcode should be able to be used in these same systems that have SLI, as it stands we that have SLI systems can not enable GPU Transcode.

This is the whole point of this thread GPU Transcode and not being able to use it with a system that has 2 or more video cards that are the same within it.

If the above doesn't help you understand what's going on within this thread, you may need to seek a Doctor's help.

It's fairly simple. Two cards is not SLI no matter what you may want the abbreviation to mean. SLI is possible in many games but not Rage as there is no alternate frame rendering possible.

The title of the tread is:

GPU Transcode is SLI muti video card related


What you meant was:

GPU Transcode is muti video card related


This is why I asked if English is your first language.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:46 am

I own two GTX 460 cards.
Ok so you own 2 GTX 460, but are they in the same computer being ran with a sli bridge with up to date drivers?
If so here is a test you can try for yourself. Run Rage with SLI enabled in the Nvidia control panel.
Once in game go to the video section run the benchmark, write down the numbers. Now try to enable GPU Transcode, if you can.
I think you will find you can not. Play the game a little, use something to watch the frame rate< MSI Afterbuner works or Fraps to show the FPS.
Now remove one of the GTX 460 from your computer, run a single card configuration then do all the test again, be sure to enable GPU Transcode.
You will now be allowed to with a single video card. I think you will find that the benchmark numbers have more than doubled & the game now also plays
better than it does with 2 video cards. Changing the configuration in the Nvidia panel to disable SLI still doesn't allow GPU Transcode to be enabled
when you have two identical video cards installed in one computer.



I suppose you mean two cards. It's not SLI till they work together, as this is not possible in Rage, there is no SLI.
No I do not mean two card, since this does not have the same effect with two different video cards in one computer.
I know I have already tested by removing one of my GTX480's and replacing it with a GT240.
I'm able to enable GPU Transcode with the two different video cards configuration.
Also tested with a GTX260 and a GTX480 in use. So no I do not mean just any two video cards.



The title of the tread is:

GPU Transcode is SLI muti video card related


What you meant was:

GPU Transcode is muti video card related


This is why I asked if English is your first language.
No the title is correct since it must be two or more identical video cards to have SLI and this only happens "not being able to use GPU Transcode" when such is in use.
A SLI ready system. So yes its a SLI configuration related problem.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:15 am

Have it your way then.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:08 am

Have it your way then.
That be because I'm right and if you ran the test you saw this.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:54 am

That be because I'm right and if you ran the test you saw this.

I have known there was no SLI for a long time. I run separate cards when my buddy wants to do the driving stuff, the only reason it's still using up 25 Gig of my SSD. I know the transcode benchmark does not work but I don't care. It runs fine.

There is no SLI possible with Rage. Go ask Nvidia.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:58 am

I have known there was no SLI for a long time. I run separate cards when my buddy wants to do the driving stuff, the only reason it's still using up 25 Gig of my SSD. I know the transcode benchmark does not work but I don't care. It runs fine.

There is no SLI possible with Rage. Go ask Nvidia.
Well if you supposable already knew this then you also already knew that with a single video card with GPU Transcode enabled Rage plays much much smoother with less texture popin or shuttering.
unlike when you have A SLI READY SYSTEM. By not being able to enable GPU Transcode you get all those bad effect while playing on A SLI Ready System. So yes the problem needs to be fixed.

If you don't care why even bother posting at all, EVERYONE already knows SLI in game is not possible. No one is asking for SLI to be used in game "for the 3rd time"
your hung on trying to be right when what your saying has nothing to do with what is being talked about in this thread. Again butt out if you have nothing constructive to say.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:15 am

One more time.

GPU Transcode is SLI muti video card related


No. There is no SLI.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:45 pm

One more time.

GPU Transcode is SLI muti video card related


No. There is no SLI.
Maybe not in your computer. lol
Again....on SLI Ready Systems GPU Transcode does not work , it needs to be fixed.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:44 am

Again....on SLI Ready Systems GPU Transcode does not work , it needs to be fixed.

Finally. You see the English language does have meaning and what you originally said makes little sense as a Scalable Link Interface is not possible in Rage. An SLI ready card set up does make the transcode benchmark not work and I agree it's a bug. I do not see any great difference in performance though, it runs fine with SLI disabled even if transcode is not working. I do have FPS turned on.

The patch, the only one, actually seems to have, apart from making the console useless, to have made things a little worse.

I'll be deleting the game soon so I don't care much. I only keep it around for my buddy who likes the driving.

I would not hold my breath waiting for id to do anything..
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:49 am

Well I don't know about anyone else but on my computer there is a big difference with a single card and GPU Transcode enabled vs 2 cards and not.
The feel of the game and everything about the game is so much smoother. Its almost like your playing a different game all together.
If I had the option to change the title, I would have long ago, "SLI Ready Systems GPU Transcode does not work" but its still a SLI related problem.
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