I personally found most of the races to be easily molded the way I envisioned. However the Khajit race seems to always have these protrusions out the side near the jaw, and no sliders seem to fix the protrusions.

The elves aren't supposed to look like pretty humans with pointy ears. I definitely prefer Skyrim's race appearance styles over Oblivion, by far.

I like the character creator. The Argonians look amazing , and I guess I'm in the minority, but I like the way the Elves look.

I think people are used to having a preconception of elves all looking like Orlando Bloom and Liv Tyler with pointy ears. The Elder Scrolls is its own universe, with its own unique races. Its elves and humans wil look different to those of other games. I love the new races, I think they look amazing.

It's just a list of presets in Skyrim. There is no real customization.

Elves, especially Dunmer, aren't supposed to look like namby pamby little forest fairies. I also enjoy the character creation in this far better.

Oblivion you could get some decentish looking faces out of it (though you usually couldn't help issues regarding neck seam/body tone contradictions) but with the face medium it was horrible and took some time and effort.

Skyrim however even the slates to work with are great looking, so it takes at most a few minutes to get something that looks great, even if drastically different than the preset, as you have a great canvas to work with already.

It could have more options, sure, but that's what mods are for. Here's hoping some LEGITIMATE hairstyles this time around, and not anime crap.

I think it's great! Just pick a decent preset and make it look good!

The character shown on the character creator are usually uglyer than in game.

But some elves look ugly, I think the main problem are the eyes.

Thats not saying such. Bethesda has always fallen short in this department. I've seen mods uploaded from players that completely blow anything Bethesda has produced away. Theres a guy who has created several face mods for NV that I wish Bethesda would hire. His work is simply amazing. I'll see if I can find a link later.

Have you seen http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1263886-show-us-your-character-3/ thread? Many players have managed to create amazing looking characters of either gender.

The OP echoes the same problems I have mentioned. To those who claim otherwise, keep in mind that Beth is contradicting themselves by claiming we can play any character we want. No, we cannot. Heck, we cannot even play characters that we could make in earlier games, including FO3, because we do not have the option of adjust RGB shades of hair coloring to be whatever we want.

To the person who posted the very rude comment about "stupid, young, animish characters," it is you who need to become far more open-minded, not to mention considering Beth's own marketing claims that are never upheld.

Also, to anyone who claims that this element unimportant, kindly remember that this is a role playing game, and the intent of a role playing game is to empathize with the character you either create or choose to play. That is not possible with Skyrim, at least for many players, and thus it undermines one of THE most important parts of any RPG. There is a reason why Ren's hair packs for Morrowind and Oblivion were some of the most popular mods, and why they were ported to FO3. That's only one example, but many more abound (shoujo race, anyone?)

Even the ingame NPCs are horrible. For example, Bretons are supposed to be fair-skinned and aesthetically beautiful, but they are not even really fair-skinned in Skyrim.

In fact, I have a very hard time distinguishing between races at all. I always have to do double-takes or check dialogue to see what race a character supposedly belongs to.

Mind you, diversity is my academic field and I hate pointing out such things because I know how much work artistic effort is.

However, the entire point is that we have no choice in this game. It took me 4-5 hours with Oblivion's character creator to make a remotely decent representation of the person I envisioned and empathized with. I can't even do it with Skyrim.

Here's hoping that some East Asian modders can fix the problem, as they always have for Beth's prior games.

Also, Beth needs to stop making marketing claims that are simply false. It makes them look very bad as a company. It's very unprofessional.

I agree but the histskin ability for argonians are like almost OP. You put it on and your unkillable for 60 seconds

I'm sorry, but after seeing your avatar I couldn't read your post with a straight face, and it wasn't for lack of trying.

I happen to agree with the OP on this.

Certain features are a wonderful addition: war paint, beards, and dirt. The war paint was taken from Dragon Age....but sometimes a little thievery isn't too bad. The beards actually demonstrate some variety. Facial hair, I find, really adds that last level of "polish" to the character.

As I see it, the lack of an age slider is a GROSS oversight. Characters (male) come in two ages: A) a 35 year old so grizzled that he was clearly was left by his mother to die of exposure shortly after birth; "Gandalf"-esque old men.

Weight: This slider needs work. You can be fit, ripped, or on steroids. Why no option to be a "pot bellied" bar brawler or a mage with a little bookworm/nerd "skinny-fat" paunch?

Eyes: The ability to make a "cotton eye Joe" amused me. If I ever make a rogue, I can RP a scoundrel suffering from an advanced case of syphilis (which causes "cotton eye") caught during his wenching days.

Still though, I feel as if I am picking a pre-set rather than creating a totally new character.

P.S. I created a Nord. I just didn't have the time to mold an elf into something passable.

>Standard heavy black eye makeup pink pigtail anime crap avatar

Opinion disregarded. Go back to your JRPGs.

No offence, but after seeing your avatar I couldn't help but smirk.

One more point I forgot to add...

... the gaming industry is extremely competitive. If you consider the vast options for diversity in character creation such as Eve Online or Guild Wars 2, Beth obviously is not being competitive with the total lack of sliding scales (i.e., diversity) in Skyrim's character creation. In other words, even from a business standpoint, they are not being competitive with this offering (with respect to character creation, mind you, but that's one of the most important parts of any RPG).

Again, opinion devalued. Especially because you failed to take into consideration customization is a higher priority for MULTIPLAYER games, because other people will actually see this. Customization makes it so everyone else can appear even remotely different from everyone else. In a single player this isn't necessary.

Yet again, go back to your JRPGs and morphing Skyrim/TES games into something they're not with your anamorphic blobs of KAWAII.

Troll thread.

My dark elf is a sixy beast and I'm not even gay

CC does svck. I couldn't even make an All black Khajiit. Not to mention it has no diversity scales. cant even change the eye size or tilt.

Yea the argonians are smexy <3 IF your looking for a female to marry go to the docks of Windrun and find Shahvee. She is the only female you can marry i think. Unless your more into men or other races haha

Elves aren't supposed to be pretty in the eyes of humans. This is not Lord of the Rings. Elves are a completely different race of beings, of course they look "alien" to us.
The OP made me cringe. Come on, are you serious?

This is a reply for most of the people who criticize this new chargen system.


I've always considered this crap the scourge and scum and ultimate cancer of Elder Scrolls community. The character generation allows the creation of rough looking, rugged warriors and even females who aren't beauty queens. Skyrims character generation is an extreme improvment to all of the previous games, and the width of options is fair enough even as vanilla. Where was bald hair and dirty scar faces for females in previous games? I'm sure modders weren't up for that, they were too busy making females look completely ridiculous, and far fetched from the original lore or even compared to what normal humanoids look like. I'm sorry, but the "character screenshot" threads from Oblivion were just utterly disgusting for me, and largely insulting too when I realised every other player played their game with a huge boobed assassin in strings. This system allows creating of characters of your taste, for once. You can create a beautiful woman too, if you play around with the system a bit, it's just that it'll (for the first time) remain in realistic boundaries. It's not intended to have a super model woman swinging a sword with 1" thin arms. What comes to elves, I cannot help but to roll my eyes a bit here, didn't you notice elves weren't exactly "beautiful" in a irl fashion in Morrowind nor Oblivion? It's how elves look in Elder Scrolls, they aren't supposed to be human looklikes with even more six appeal. Elves are a different race than human, from a lore perspective, who are you as a human to say Elves are not beautiful in their own eyes?

In short, this system has a wide variety, but it is within reasonable borders and has good taste in what is realistic for a character to look like in such an environment.

Your avatar looks more laughable than any NPC i have ever met in Oblivion or skyrim