Hackers have ruined Crysis Wars, you can never seem to get a fair match anywhere now, I just want to know if Crysis 2 is going to try and do something about it. also Crysis 2 has score boards and leader boards and already the beta testers have found a way to hack it! Crytek, please find a way to keep hackers/cheaters out of Crysis 2, it spoils alot of fun for everyone and it's just pathetic.

a good implementation of pb would help a lot and maybe be enough, in crysis wars pb svcked hard but if you check bc2 it is a great system

And yet BC2 still has cheaters.

It's unfortunately a risk that you take when you play online. There will always be some moron that can't play propperly.

It would be great if they add 'kick player' vote to Crysis 2... Crysis wars really needed this. but I'm just worried that the leaderboards for Crysis 2 will just be ruined by hackers, kinda defeats the point of having a leaderboard ya know, or even have some kinda way that removes hackers from the leaderboard.

It would be great if they add 'kick player' vote to Crysis 2... Crysis wars really needed this. but I'm just worried that the leaderboards for Crysis 2 will just be ruined by hackers, kinda defeats the point of having a leaderboard ya know, or even have some kinda way that removes hackers from the leaderboard.

Crysis Wars didn't need kick vote, every server has that via mods. What it needed was patches to fix the gaping security holes it has. That was the point of the (unanswered and censored) Knock Knock issue threads that were created, to try and get these flaws fixed as quickly as possible

And yet BC2 still has cheaters.

It's unfortunately a risk that you take when you play online. There will always be some moron that can't play propperly.

true, i just dont understand were those ppl get the money to waste on accounts that are going to get banned

i think if it just worked as good as bc2 it would be already 100x better than crysis wars, its just too easy to cheat in this game

Most hackers are using pirate versions of the games most likely.

The reason Crysis has had so many hackers is because too many files are kept client-side.

And yet BC2 still has cheaters.

It's unfortunately a risk that you take when you play online. There will always be some moron that can't play propperly.

So there really is cheaters in BC2 ? O.o
I have never met one myself, but I have been called a cheater a few time x)
Every time i tell them that I don't cheat and that I don't think there exists cheats for BC2

and if Crysis 2 does have Punkbuster it better support 64bit systems... sorry but the punkbuster for Crysis wars was utter S***

One thing is clear,

Hack programmes are always available at some cost to the user, unfortunate for those of us who wish to have a good and fair game, more recently in BF2 the teleport hack was frequently used though not for long, and we have seen the new knife hack also,

MoH Tier 1 has been rife with hacks the first few weeks, and you could see PB rolling over the names while banning these players, sadly many get by PB and most every game suffers from hack programmes. As has been said, we simply have to grin and bear it.

This problem Is something that all involved are constantly working on to improve the situation, though some Aimbots for instance do get through, they are short lived, but it isnt long before another bot is introduced to the mix.

I would ask you all to remember, to fix a leaking roof, you first have to find where the water is getting in!!! in short, the problem has to occur before it can be fixed, and it is usually fixed in short order thankfully, BUT, if someone comes along in the middle of the night and puts a few more holes in your roof, you have to start again my friends.


I am pretty sure that all the while these problems happen, all that can be done will be done to ease this problem, also, a lot depends on the server you favour, and how capable and fair the Admin are, so please have patience my friends.

Im sure Crysis 2 will be a clear winner

Guss

Indeed there are hacks for most games,

Written by people who profit from the sale of the exploitation of the game, I understand that these proggrames are expensive and short lived, and its not wise to use them.

If discovoured you risk losing game accounts, and while some people believe that you can simply create another account, this also is not always possible, and if you do suceed then you will be starting from scratch, with a blank scoresheet, so what would the point have been in using the hack in the first place.

I would advise anyone who has considered using some form of hack, FORGET IT, this only proves you failed as a player allready, and you cant make the grade based on your own skill.

Guss

If they plan to return Pb services, at least get some checks with compatibility with Windows 7 (x64). and try to add additional restrictions to protect the game.

@ the question about accounts:

Cheater groups like the late poohead and is fanboys create key stealers. 99.999% of the time when a new cheat is futured on Youtube with a download link, it's nothing more than a VB key stealer. So, in the end it's wanna-be cheaters that provide actuall cheaters with accounts. Free.

@ Guss

I agree, but also disagree with you leaking roof anolagy. There are in fact certain things that you can think of an block before hand. Let's take the simple name spoof in Crysis Wars. It basically sends a rename request from CLIENT A on behalf another. The check is simple. If the requestor is not equal to the Name Changee, so NO. The real funny thing is that at certain points in CW's code the developers did exactly this, but some other parts they just left it out.

And yet BC2 still has cheaters.

It's unfortunately a risk that you take when you play online. There will always be some moron that can't play propperly.

S.o.p. for some Noobs, If you can't win - start cheating. !!

i dunno if this already happens or not but, maybe hire some professional hackers to try and hack your game before release ?

@ the question about accounts:

Cheater groups like the late poohead and is fanboys create key stealers. 99.999% of the time when a new cheat is futured on Youtube with a download link, it's nothing more than a VB key stealer. So, in the end it's wanna-be cheaters that provide actuall cheaters with accounts. Free.

@ Guss

I agree, but also disagree with you leaking roof anolagy. There are in fact certain things that you can think of an block before hand. Let's take the simple name spoof in Crysis Wars. It basically sends a rename request from CLIENT A on behalf another. The check is simple. If the requestor is not equal to the Name Changee, so NO. The real funny thing is that at certain points in CW's code the developers did exactly this, but some other parts they just left it out.

Sorry and agreed, I was trying to keep it simple for the many who dont believe hacks exist, but seriously, there are some real expensive hacks out there, that are hopefully and usually short lived.

People paid a handsome price for the recent ( Teleport ) Hack this would find you engaged in battle one moment, then the next you would be joining your teamamtes on your parachute, waaaay of the map, landing in some water or something, and obviously dying,, I have no idea what benefit this was to the hacker, but id didnt do my K/D much good, lol.

As soon as a hack is detected, force the screen brightness of that hacker up to 50,000%.
Problem solved.

But, seriously, the engine should purposefully break itself. Or accidentally delete C:\Windows
It's better than banning their IP or something, then they just work around it.

Of course, such measures will only be taken against 100% confirmed hackers

As soon as a hack is detected, force the screen brightness of that hacker up to 50,000%.
Problem solved.

But, seriously, the engine should purposefully break itself. Or accidentally delete C:\Windows
It's better than banning their IP or something, then they just work around it.

Of course, such measures will only be taken against 100% confirmed hackers

Like the sound of that, Hackers Brightness raising to 50,000%. Sounds plausible

Like the sound of that, Hackers Brightness raising to 50,000%. Sounds plausible
"In recent news, the city of Seattle was bathed in a thermonuclear-like light. The death toll is believed to be in the thousands, and survivors of the blast described it as a 'living hell' and suffered from multiple burns. The explosion only ended once it crashed the citys power grid."

AW GREAT.

Like the sound of that, Hackers Brightness raising to 50,000%. Sounds plausible
"In recent news, the city of Seattle was bathed in a thermonuclear-like light. The death toll is believed to be in the thousands, and survivors of the blast described it as a 'living hell' and suffered from multiple burns. The explosion only ended once it crashed the citys power grid."

AW GREAT.

Now that was Epically evil and Twisted.

You should try and join a good server or community, there they will have active admins on the servers who can remove these troublesome users.

You should try and join a good server or community, there they will have active admins on the servers who can remove these troublesome users.

No, I think its the developers job to save a game from hackers.
Even though you can remove troublesome users, they′ll still be around.
DICE did a very good job at bc2 and I think pb should also be used with crysis 2.

You should try and join a good server or community, there they will have active admins on the servers who can remove these troublesome users.

No, I think its the developers job to save a game from hackers.
Even though you can remove troublesome users, they′ll still be around.
DICE did a very good job at bc2 and I think pb should also be used with crysis 2.

PB is horrible, it thinks the Steam overlay is a cheat and kicks you for it.

Apart from that, I agree. Saying "play with active admins" doesn't solve the problem that the game is fundamentally broken. Lots of these hacks would be impossible to deal with even if a server had ten thousand admins on it; they don't even need to join to crash servers, all they do is type the IP into a program and hit enter.

Active admins is always a brilliant idea and I support in 100%. However, admins can't always tell a lie from a truth. There are some things that is just not visible to the naked eye.

Having a game that is "game is fundamentally broken", as Darklite nicely put it, creates a rift in the community where everyone is suspected of cheating. It completely destroys the fund aspect of the game when you have people calling"cheater" every 10 seconds.

PB is a third party application based on the abstraction that it will work for all games, which to me sounds like a flaw. I believe that (and I am no expert) games should be planned with cheating in mind from the very start. Give the cheater as little as possible to work with.

Active admins is always a brilliant idea and I support in 100%. However, admins can't always tell a lie from a truth. There are some things that is just not visible to the naked eye.

Having a game that is "game is fundamentally broken", as Darklite nicely put it, creates a rift in the community where everyone is suspected of cheating. It completely destroys the fund aspect of the game when you have people calling"cheater" every 10 seconds.

PB is a third party application based on the abstraction that it will work for all games, which to me sounds like a flaw. I believe that (and I am no expert) games should be planned with cheating in mind from the very start. Give the cheater as little as possible to work with.
I confirm from my admin work on a BFBC2 server, finding a hack is a real nightmare most of the time, some of the more foolish hackers just give themselves away, although we do have other uses as admin also, like keeping the game and server as fair and balanced as is possible.

So it is fair to say again, try to find a good community server a sensible admin regimen, and a good rating / record, this can not be the case so far for the new game, it isnt, released, lol. but it wont take long before some servers get esrablished, hope we gamers can treat the admins with some respct at that time.

It is also fair to say these people can miss a lot of quality game time, while performing admin duties at the request of good players, in order to keep thier server in some order,

thats just one for consideration.

Guss