She is a [censored] [censored] i hate her so much why the [censored] cant i just stab her in her sleep and be done with it? bethesda i love you, but you did me dirty on this one. I thought ypu learned from fallout 3 we dont [censored] need our hands held anymore.... and if you like Maven your a [censored] brainless idiot eho loves corrupt politicions like obama and i know i can not spell its also midnight and i have worked a 12 hour shift so what the [censored] ever Maven Black-Briar is still a [censored] please let me kill her it would make my [censored] existance...

I don't like Maven Black-Briar either and wish there were quests in Skyrim that removed her power. That said, this forum is not the place for inappropriate language, insults or politics