Well seeing as this is my new account, why not set alight to it with a pointless opinion.

To me, Skyrim didn't feel like s TES game.
It felt like an FPS Action game that just happened to be set in the same world.
To me, it feels like with every game, there is a lesser great feel about it. When I first played Morrowind back in 2002, i was blown away, it was filled with alien lands and vast ruins, with plenty of weapon, armor, cloth types etc, and it felt REAL. To me it was like I was in a different world, I could immerse myself. Now I'm mot stupid, I don't want to here "So what, you think people with no stand-still animation feels real? and all the stuff that Morrowind lacked, but I don't want to list every single reason why I enjoyed immersing myself in that game. But it felt like I was inside a beautiful, magical world, full of endless character types, endless quests that would never run out, and many other amazing quality's the same had.

The Oblivion came along, some things had been taken out, some well done features from Morrowind were no longer present, but it didn't FEEL like they were missing, I wouldn't be doing a certain something and think "Oh, this was better/in Morrowind, why isn't it here?". I could again immerse myself within the game. It felt again, beautiful and magic. It too blew me away.

Then there's Skyrim, I'm again not going to list everything wrtong or right with it because you have your own opinions, and the forums full of whinges.
But it didn't feel like anything. The only feeling i felt was "Oh this is cool". "Wow! The mountain looks beautiful". I can get those reactions in lots of games. I don't need Skyrim for that kinda stuff. What I was expecting, was the feelings I felt when playing Morrowind and Oblivion, the immersed, magical feel, the feeling "Yes! This is my world, endless things to do and places to conquer!". Alas, that never happened. I mean, I'm not saying Skyrim is bad a game, no no. I am saying it doesn't FEEL like an Elder Scrolls chapter to me. This makes me very sad, and I understand how people who read this and completely disagree with me will feel, because i truly love Skyrim, I played it from release all the way till 10 mins ago.

I just feel like Bethesda have lost their touch, their magic. Things are getting dumbed down, the only additional features that are being added are new quests and story, and updated graphics. I don't feel like anything important is being added, just important things are being taken away.

If you read, all of it, Thanks

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1407014-has-bethesda-lost-touch-or-have-i/page__hl__bethesda__fromsearch__1

That is about Dawnguard, this is about Skyrim as a whole.

I feel in essence they are related, I don't disagree with your sentiments as a whole. but nor do I feel they lost their magick per say. I just think....well I don't know what it is concerning BGS. on one hand I argue they're trying, for the first time in ever theirs actual effort in the form of Patches, interactions (kinda) and DLC. and at the same time I look at some of the design decisions and can't help but think

H-F-S what the hell are you people thinking over there?

If the trend continues, TES VI is likely to lack attributes, perks and just about everything makes an RPG worth the name. All will be reduced to nothingness, limited to popups like hey, you just became better at , congrats!

/sarcasm

I just don't feel like the're as good as making Games anymore. I think they have genuinely run out of ideas. Nothing feels original anymore. Just a copy and paste or a half arsed addition. I feel like the interaction and lots of updates is down to them feeling guilty, OR trying to hide the fact they are losing ideas.

BUT this is all of course, my opinion and shouldn't be taken as though I'm preaching, Morrowind and Oblivion are still my top 2 games of all time, and I love skyrim. The other games, Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire and redgaurd were great too. But there's only so much you can do before things get spread thin and become opaque.

This is perfect. I agree 100%. I'm scared that this is actually happening.

Mostly this.

You are way out of line with your mouthing off. Calling other people degenerates just because they do not like the same thing you like is very immature.

I happen to consider Skyrim better than the other games they have made. As far as I am concerned, Bethesda has moved in the right direction.

Can they add some things to make it better? Sure they can, but I would not say put back attributes and some other crap that they got rid of.

The point is, not all of their fans want what you want. It does not make them any less of a fan than you are.

I said at the bottom I was being stereo-typical, I trust you know what that means? The kids who are known to play Call of Duty and only that game get called Degenerates. And I stated at the bottom I was being stereo typical, so I do not believe I was calling them that because they don't like the same thing as me, because I clearly stated, MANY times that this is my opinion only, if you actually read some of the stuff you would realize this, which ties in, I never once claimed they were less of a fan,m or that other fans should want that I want. Umm, can you stop looking for an argument? Who are you trying to impress?

So based on your "points", you don't have a point. Just an argument.

when or if that happens i will be done with elder scrolls for good,I really hope they go back to being more about gameplay than about graphics. Sure it looks nice but what exactly could have been added to the game in the time it took to make it in those graphics? IF they Made it you had to level your skills to gain ranks within factions again i would be very very happy

Did they lose their magic? Well, they lost mysticism, so...

+1 lol

In some regards, I have questioned Beth and their decisions with Skyrim. Overall however, i think this is one of their better games. Most people who played Morrowind consider it a high point of the series, something which I'm not going to argue with. However, this argument that they have ruined role playing I do not agree with in the slightest. There are many definitions of that word role playing but im going to go with the kind of simple fact that your playing a character in a world unlike any other, and through his decisions, you form your story. Through my little less than a year of Skyrim, I have realized that all the same options to role play are still there. You make a character and travel through the world. People lament the fact that we can join every guild with one character. I don't like it but my workaround of this is to simply not join a guild. I belueve that people have a hard time with self control and therefore do not stick to a characters story and background.

With such things as skills, mo and ob both had these primarily skills that you chose. Skyrim has the same thing, but you just have to decide not to use those other skills that are available to you. I have no idea if this is making sense to anyone, seeing as im tired and Hung over. What I'm trying to say though, is no, I don't believe Beth has lost their touch for making a rpg. Each tes is different from the other, each has good and bad aspects about it, but I have loved my time in Skyrim and cant wait to get back into it (once I fix my xbox....)

I think you can discuss this there.
Or make a thread in the Dawnguard section if indeed what this was about.

In either case, make sure nobody is baited and if someone responds with flames report it and stay within the rules of this forum.

Since I already deleted and warned for flaming in this thread and now there is additional flames, this one is closed.