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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:51 am

Be careful with what you say on FB, because it may and will be used against you at some point in your professional life. Especially when getting into academic or other discussions that pertain to your profession somehow, treat people like they'd be your colleagues, patients or employers/supervisors.
Other than that, it's in the nature of the internet that debates can result in a mess without obvious reason rather easily. It's somehow pretty easy to get aggressive online (perhaps that's something for people like you to devote research time to). If internet was real life, I'd have to believe a lot of people are as obnoxious, attention-seeking or silly as they appear. Though I don't obviously, since our internet personas are not completely equal to our real selves. I hope I made my point clear enough. It's regrettable, but don't dwell on it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:01 am

Pfff whatever I think the lamest argument to use in a discussion is "I've been through stuff and you don't so you don't know anything about it". It's like the easiest way to say you are wrong and their right. However it doesn't really say anything I mean it doesn't even have to be supported by an argument. Because we just have to accept and believe that this person knows a lot more about the subject than you do? Which kind off kills all possibilities to discuss the topic.

Also people who think they have to look like models from an ad need a reality check and are plain stupid. I mean models look great in pictures, I would say some even flawless. However they didn't even looked like that when they took the picture?! It's all photoshopped, smooth skin, sometimes a smaller waist etc. So who cares? You are trying to live up to an image that the person who is actually in that image can't even live up too themselves so stop feeling sorry for yourself and just accept the fact that you are never going to be a super model just like the rest of 99,9999999% of the people who live on this earth...

Reality check test:

http://static.entertainmentwise.com/photos/Image/430kimkardphotoshop.jpg


If you are actually surprised by the difference in those two pictures you need a reality check as well...and if you have no idea who's in the picture you also need a reality check....

Lol I love madonna's pictures...DON'T CLICK IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH!

http://http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2010/02/20100208_madonna_560x375.jpg
http://www.flixya.com/files-photo/1/0/0/1001blogs696081.jpg
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1005/adobe-photoshop-madonna-you-got-old-demotivational-poster-1274410518.jpg
http://theblemish.com/images/2009/01/madonna-outtakes-31-750x1005.jpg
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:58 am

I gave up to start discussions about certain subjects with certain people ...
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:10 am

The truth of today is that truth is not allowed if it doesn't fully promote whatever happens to be socially accepted. Part of living in this politically correct, egalitarian society. ;-/
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:20 am

It's a mix of both. Yes, much of it is distorted self-image, but mass media does tell people what's ugly and what's not and that sets the standards for people.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:03 am

OK so today I was speaking on face book about the subject of eating disorders. One person in this debate was suggesting that it was brought on by mass media, as in magazines that depict models in airbrushed images of unnatural beauty.
I mentioned that I hold a degree in psychology, and that studies show that Axis-II disorders such as Anorexia Nervosa, Bullima, and others are in fact brought on by much more serious trauma.
I sighted the DSM as my source, since my credentials were in question. For those of you unfamilar, the DSM is the diagnostic manual used by professionals in the field to diagnose psychological disorders.
According to the DSM the eating disorders are the result of a distorted self image. Meaning that a person who has one of those types of disorders actually sees themselves as ugly regardless of how they look. To their eyes the body actually appears differently than it does to other people.
Now for pointing this out I was considered a shovanist, and it was implied that my field of study was less than respectable. This was of course coming from a woman whom the issue was near and dear to. I was banned from the discussion.
So let me understand this all together: I am a man with a college degree in the field. This woman likely has a diagnosed AXIS-II disorder, yet I am not credible.
To this all I can say is, keep starving yourself honey. You can call me whatever you want, but what I am is full, confident, and happy with myself. I ain't even mad.

Remember for future reference, people don't like a person waving degrees and saying their an expert. Nothing personal, just makes you look like your trying to be better than someone else and that might be one of the reasons this woman was put off by you.

I agree to some people who watch alot of media this could have a cultural effect.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:18 am

The truth of today is that truth is not allowed if it doesn't fully promote whatever happens to be socially accepted. Part of living in this politically correct, egalitarian society. ;-/
I know what you're referring to in your example (I read the thread that got locked) and I have something to say to both you, and the OP:

Regardless of whether or not you believe yourself to be correct, you must respect that there are modes of communication which enhance your chances of successfully spreading your ideas, and there are modes of communication which guarantee your ideas will not spread. Quite often, knowing when to stop talking dramatically increases your chances of successful communication.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:26 am

just saying in the medieval ages fat chicks where thought beautiful,ever wonder why victoria stayed a virgin? she was skinny
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:58 pm

just saying in the medieval ages fat chicks where thought beautiful,ever wonder why victoria stayed a virgin? she was skinny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria

She was plump, and had several children. You were thinking of Elizabeth I, I think. Anyway, "fat" chicks were never attractive. Fuller-bodied, sure. Plump? Yes. 500lbs? No.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:06 am

Not all eating disorders come from a skewed self-image. And not all of them come from some type of trauma. If you have been taught that they ALL stem from the exact same issue, then I would question your education. Also, where exactly do you think the ideas behind mental illness have come from and where do you think they came up with the definitions of each disorder? Oh that's right - from people who have them.

I'm not ashamed to admit that I had an issue with anorexia when I was in high school, many many moons ago. I assure you it had absolutely NOTHING to do with the media or self image. Mine stemmed from an on going traumatic experience and in some odd twisted way it made me feel better to be able to control whether I ate - or not, as the case was - because I could control NOTHING else in my life.

However - I have meet women and girls who do have a terribly twisted sense of self and they believe that there is no way to be "too thin". They idolize models and the crack-head skinny women on magazines and will do anything they can to be like them. And in almost all of those cases - they're extremely unhappy with their situation in life and think that if they looked differently, they could be differently.

The point is that people develop all mental disorders for different reasons. NO ONE is the same. NO ONE is effected by the exact same things. So maybe you should expand your understanding of eating disorders to encompass real life knowledge instead of just what a book tells you. And you do that by being respectful to those who suffer(ed) from them. (Even if they do hold on to a skewed idea of why they have these issues. If they aren't in a place to accept that it's in their power to change it, then being rude and cutting them down isn't going to help anyone.) I would think any professional in that field would tell you the same.

Best reply on this board - and apparently from someone who has been there.
Personally, I have no idea why anything happens in anyone else's head except my own. And even then everyone else would be of a different opinion as to why it's there.
Quite honestly, I believe that having degrees and years of college only gives you qualification in LAW , not necessarily in life.
There's one factor that counts more than any degree - and that's wisdom. It's the study of people that's important.
Wisdom usually comes from a long life time of experience.

In your case I think this thread is an excellent one that gives you a case history of what to expect 'out there'.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:41 pm

You can get people to argue about the validty of water as a source of life, don't put too much thought into it. They certainly don't, and I would shudder to think if someone took them seriously.
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