First and foremost I think I have a firm grasp of TES lore in general. I get oblivion and nirn. What anu and padomay are, but I just recently learned of CHIM and the Godhead. After learning about the Godhead I find it very difficult to bring myself to play Skyrim because in the end I feel like none of my actions matter at all.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the Godhead pretty much means that all of the world of TES is just some dream and everything is an aspect of that dream? My problem is that makes me feel utterly insignificant. I feel like I just played the series for nothing because no matter my actions I am not even real...please correct me on my lore if I'm wrong I could use some help on CHIM and the Godhead, but if what I think about the Godhead is true then I think I just feel like I can't play the series because I won't have any impact in the long run. Forgive my ramblings but if any lore buffs could help me out please do so...

did you take the red pill? Because we need to go deeper.....and no it's not a dream.......it's a bunch of kids playing a tabletop game in the basemant.

I view it as: Assume the godhead is a massive pool, when you achieve chim, you realize you were a drop of that pool, sperate from it, yet still you are as much the pool as the rest of it. So when you realizes that what you see before you is the dream of the godhead, you go back into the pool. Where you once were only a drop, now you are back into the pool, which means you are now the pool(collective godhead again), that is the "one" being that essetnially created what we have. Think of it as the creation of teh godhead, and to maintain this creation, the godhead must maintain its slumber. However, since each drop is a part of that pool(since technically anyone could achieve CHIM in theory) that means every action from every being in mundus is important and a living part of the mind of the godhead.

Nothing really changes with this realization. This is essentially the atoms of the mundus that hold this particular world together. No real difference between this or AO from the forgotten realms, honestly. This is all obviously my personal interpritation on it, to make sense of not only the idea behind chim, but also to make sure it still fits with the settings(to me).

You're the sort of person that would zero-sum then

Everything that exists in TES may just be shards of an ever-sleeping Godhead. But these shards are still unique and invidual things from certain perspectives (as long as they are seperated from each other, they'll merge back together when the Godhead eventually wakes) wether they are a Daedric Prince, a rock fromed from a long-dead Aedra or a simple peasant in a muck field.
The events that happen are still relevant to them, they can cause them pain or joy and your actions are still meaningful to them.

What your doing is looking at TES in a big-picture sort of way, it's like looking at your own life and deciding that your actions are meaningless because with the sheer size and complexity of the Universe, which with regards to that size they are meaningless and pointless, which (I hope, because that would be a really depressing way to live) you don't do. Just look at it in the small scale, because on that scale your actions do matter in both the game and reality.

Just like real life. Damn you Carl Sagan!

But honestly I think any universe has the potential to have this problem, it's just such a big vast unknowing thing though, no one really cares.

Why not focus your attention to proper philosophy? TES lore is somewhat interesting, but studying it seems redundant to me as it means nothing.

Concepts such as determinism, life as we know it is just new events created by specific conditions prior, basically cause and effect. Does this mean us as humans have free will? Are we actually to blame for our own actions?

Fatalism, where everything in life has already been predetermined, so for example you're either are destined to die from a specific illness or survive. Does this make it redundant to go to the doctor? If its already been decided that you either survive or die?

Google it if you're interested, it's more worthwhile than pondering some rubbish made up by game developers IMO.

What is the greatest illusion? Fatalism. Everything is. Enjoy.

You know, if I turn out to be saviour of the mankind one day, because I nuked allien spaceship like in that movie, or if I slay a dragon who cannot be killed by noone but me, or whatever happens, when I die and somebody tells me; "Lol, it wasn't real. This was all just a dream of some crazy old man"- I wouldn't care. No matter how it ends, no matter if our reality might be just an imagination, I did kill a dragon, or nuked spaceship. I did it fair, I had no help from nobodies dream, I did it because I was pro enough to do it, and I brought peace to all of those imaginery people, who imaginerly loved me cos of it, and I was so awesome and all...

Same goes for Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrorwind etc..
Our reality matters not, if we conquer it. And after all, same as TES and our reality, it is all just a game after all. Don't question it, just do it and be awesome in whatever you do, because even if nothing is real, you are not aswell. So you share common existance with those around you.

God, I am full of shiz.

This brings me to wonder. What if we are just a video game, and I am being controlled by someone else, and I am just a piece of data in a computer? What if the Ancient Greeks were a piece of the lore in this video game we live in, and somebody else is discussing it in a higher up forums right now? On the other hand, am I really wondering this or is there a person controlling me to hint you guys on it's existence?

Philosophy is a confusing thing. It's really the biggest question I think we all have, and it's nearly impossible to find out.

post this in the Lore section

Ignore the silly levels of the lore, and just enjoy the game?

(Well, or read enough Heinlein to get used to the concept of World As Myth, and stop caring that the world of TES might be something minor to entities in another dimension. Because every reality, is just a story in another! )



...because, after all, it is all just a game. To us. The people playing the game. From an outside viewpoint. So...

If you don't care about being a extremely insignificant human in a ginormous universe then you should't care about being part of a god's dream.

Well technically, since one can achieve CHIM(in theory) everyone is god and they are all dreaming, becaue they are all the "one"... OR something. Ya IDK, watever.

Are you kidding me? Your actions wouldn't matter anyways. It's a bloody videogame. Enjoy it for what it is.

I view CHIM more as the NPC's being aware that they're inside a video game. Think of the Godhead as the Elder Scrolls series. Then again, I find it all confusing. I may have gotten the concept wrong.