Hookshot : V

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:06 pm

EDIT: NOT LIKE THE ONE IN ZELDA

On the off chance that crossbows are in the game, I think an automated grappling would be not too far fetched. It's basically the same mechanism, and it would be a perfect item for stealth characters.

Even better, have it enclosed in a gauntlet.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:18 pm

This isn't Zelda...

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:12 pm

I don't think it would fit.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:25 pm

This isn't Zelda...

How did I know that would be the first answer... I used the work "hookshot" because it was the only relevant word I could think of.

Automated grappling hook, how's that?

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:27 pm

Skyrim could use some goombas as well.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:15 am

I would settle for a plane old grappling hook, but I imagine adding the ability to scale walls would cause problems for game design.
Edit: I rather it not be in the game than some annoying version of it

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:21 pm

Well it would have to be incorporated into quests...or its pointless.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:59 pm

How did I know that would be the first answer... I used the work "hookshot" because it was the only relevant word I could think of.

Automated grappling hook, how's that?

Are you talking about a hookshot like in Zelda, where you shoot it and it pulls you in automatically? If so, I don't know if that would fit in the game. A bit too unrealistic and cartoonish for a TES game.

Now, if you were talking about shooting a crossbow bolt with a rope attached and being able to climb the rope after it stuck to something, then that would be a bit more feasible. Though I still can't really see it as being added to the game. Maybe something for a modder to add later, like what Scruggsy did with his Thieves Arsenal mod.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:42 pm

Well it would have to be incorporated into quests...or its pointless.

Yeah definitely, make it a reward for completing a Thieves Guild or something.

» Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:26 am

Nah this is completely out of the realm of TES. I don't even think BGS could justify having an obvious iconic weapon from another IP. If you want more assassin/thieves-based technology, Assassin's Creed would be a much better candidate.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:23 pm

Are you talking about a hookshot like in Zelda, where you shoot it and it pulls you in automatically? If so, I don't know if that would fit in the game. A bit too unrealistic and cartoonish for a TES game.

Now, if you were talking about shooting a crossbow bolt with a rope attached and being able to climb the rope after it stuck to something, then that would be a bit more feasible. Though I still can't really see it as being added to the game. Maybe something for a modder to add later, like what Scruggsy did with his Thieves Arsenal mod.

Yeah, hookshot was the wrong word to use. Not like in Zelda.... Like a gauntlet that has a crossbow mechanism on top that shoots a long chain with an arrow attached. It doesn't pull you up, you have to climb up.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:47 pm

I would like to tie ropes to arrows and climb them, similar to the oblivion mod called "Theives Arsenal" I believe is the name.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:51 pm

A long chain is heavy and impracticle.

How about just stacking pillows?

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:31 pm

How did I know that would be the first answer... I used the work "hookshot" because it was the only relevant word I could think of.

Automated grappling hook, how's that?

This isn't Just Cause 2....

Seriously though, I just don't see it fitting into an Elder Scrolls game. I love Zelda, and I love the hookshot (I also liked JC2 and the grappling hook as well)... but, IMO, it just does not fit the game style of The Elder Scrolls.

» Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:19 am

A long chain is heavy and impracticle.

How about just stacking pillows?

Not a huge heavy chain obviously, just something thin that can hold your weight and coil up inside the mechanism.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:29 pm

Yeah, hookshot was the wrong word to use. Not like in Zelda.... Like a gauntlet that has a crossbow mechanism on top that shoots a long chain with an arrow attached. It doesn't pull you up, you have to climb up.

I still say it would be easier to work with if you were just shooting crossbow bolts with ropes attached.

For example, check out http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9655 for Oblivion I mentioned in my last post, notably the vine/rope arrows it uses.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:34 am

Well, if Levitation is brought back, it could be a good way for Thieves and Warriors to access otherwise inaccessible places.

Just like we could add ropes to emulate slowfall for example.

» Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:10 am

I still say it would be easier to work with if you were just shooting crossbow bolts with ropes attached.

For example, check out http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9655 for Oblivion I mentioned in my last post, notably the vine/rope arrows it uses.

Yeah I've seen those rope arrows, that's pretty much what I'm talking about. But for thief type characters IMO it would be a little easier to have that enclosed in your gauntlet rather than lug around a crossbow. That way you can even use it while you have your weapon out. And like I said, if they include crossbow technology, this is the exact same thing, just on your wrist instead.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:49 am

Who needs the hookshot, when you can have . . . rope arrows!

lol, good to see some Thief fans in here.

Edit: gameplay wise, I like the extra amount of thinking involved in rope arrows versus a hookshot, but I wouldn't be opposed to a wrist-mounted crossbow for them...

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:44 pm

Who needs the hookshot, when you can have . . . rope arrows!

Exactly, except rope arrows enclosed in a mechanism on your wrist similar to a small crossbow!

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:51 pm

Why not just have a regular grappling hook that you throw? It would be neat if a thief had to be a little more creative with his exploits.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:42 am

I'd rather not go that extra step, really. Seems gimmicky at that point, but a normal rope arrow is awesome.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:12 am

Why not just have a regular grappling hook that you throw? It would be neat if a thief had to be a little more creative with his exploits.

That would do, but I thought if they implemented crossbow technology, just coil that grappling hook up and put it in a miniature crossbow mechanism on your gauntlet.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:34 pm

Automated grappling hook, how's that?

Can we also have a bat shaped boomerang? I'd call it the.. "batarang" and my character Bruce Wayne - a stealthy rogue/warrior type who only dresses in black would emerge from his underground lair ready to smite foes in his automotive mount mobile.

» Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:42 pm

Why not just use telekinesis to pull the wall to you... except in reverse...