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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:53 pm

I don't want a "pat on the back" I want the respect due to the position.

Oh Hi Pablo Picasso! I see you are a painter, perhaps you should visit the gift shop and get a paint by number set to do at home!

Right. It's about the game's internal consistency. If I'm Thane in a given town, the citizens should acknowledge that fact. For example, I'm the Thane of Solitude and walking down the street minding my own business when a guard decides to tell me "Keep your hands to yourself sneak-thief"--or something like that. To me, that's a serous violation of the Chain of Command. I'm his boss for all intents and purposes. I understand that Thane is largely an honorary title but in a medieval setting it would likely be grounds for lopping the guys head off in the public square.

In Whiterun, post Main Quest you'll still hear the guards say, "Maybe I'm the Dragonborn but just don't know it". No dude, you're not. It was only like two days ago that I captured a dragon up at the Jarl's pad and then rode off into the sky on his back: not what I'd call a slow news day in Whiterun. But if I kill a guard behind a building when no one else is looking I get bounty. They somehow know about that but not my feat of defeating the most powerful dragon ever.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:19 am

Yeah, nothing svcks more than being the new Guild leader of the Thieves Guild and still having that one guy always threatening to smash in my skull.

Get the Gloves of the Pugilist and beat him to death. That's finally what I did. Then I took his clothes and threw him in the sewer, where he was still floating the last time I saw him. It'll cost you 1,000 gold but it's so worth it. The other NPCs in the Guild also stop telling you that they're going to get him to kick your ass.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:20 am

It would be less annoying if NPCs didn't talk so darned much. When I'm running through town at top speed, I don't need someone I pass on the street to say, "I don't have time to talk to you..."

Who asked you? Really, did anyone ask you to open your yap? Do I look like I care if you have time to talk to me?

It's not necessary for everyone to tell their life story every time they get within 100 yards of the player. And then when the speech is stupid, insulting, or inappropriate, it's even worse. It would be nice if there were fewer instances of people saying things altogether, and then perhaps the things could be better thought-out.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:14 pm

Right. It's about the game's internal consistency. If I'm Thane in a given town, the citizens should acknowledge that fact. For example, I'm the Thane of Solitude and walking down the street minding my own business when a guard decides to tell me "Keep your hands to yourself sneak-thief"--or something like that. To me, that's a serous violation of the Chain of Command. I'm his boss for all intents and purposes. I understand that Thane is largely an honorary title but in a medieval setting it would likely be grounds for lopping the guys head off in the public square.

In Whiterun, post Main Quest you'll still hear the guards say, "Maybe I'm the Dragonborn but just don't know it". No dude, you're not. It was only like two days ago that I captured a dragon up at the Jarl's pad and then rode off into the sky on his back: not what I'd call a slow news day in Whiterun. But if I kill a guard behind a building when no one else is looking I get bounty. They somehow know about that but not my feat of defeating the most powerful dragon ever.
A Thane is basically a vassal knight. It's not a position that makes you a boss, it just means you're a respected servant of the Jarl. There can be more than one Thane of a place, just like there can be more than one knight of a lord.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:03 pm

Get the Gloves of the Pugilist and beat him to death. That's finally what I did. Then I took his clothes and threw him in the sewer, where he was still floating the last time I saw him. It'll cost you 1,000 gold but it's so worth it. The other NPCs in the Guild also stop telling you that they're going to get him to kick your ass.

I have those gloves. I may just do that! lol
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:00 pm

Farengar should not be directing the PC to the Mages Guild after they have completed the quest and have become the Guildmaster.

Guards should not be asking the Harbinger if he fetches mead for the companions.

Dirge should not be threatening the Thieves' Guild Master.
Right. It's about the game's internal consistency. If I'm Thane in a given town, the citizens should acknowledge that fact. For example, I'm the Thane of Solitude and walking down the street minding my own business when a guard decides to tell me "Keep your hands to yourself sneak-thief"--or something like that. To me, that's a serous violation of the Chain of Command. I'm his boss for all intents and purposes. I understand that Thane is largely an honorary title but in a medieval setting it would likely be grounds for lopping the guys head off in the public square.

In Whiterun, post Main Quest you'll still hear the guards say, "Maybe I'm the Dragonborn but just don't know it". No dude, you're not. It was only like two days ago that I captured a dragon up at the Jarl's pad and then rode off into the sky on his back: not what I'd call a slow news day in Whiterun. But if I kill a guard behind a building when no one else is looking I get bounty. They somehow know about that but not my feat of defeating the most powerful dragon ever.
It would be less annoying if NPCs didn't talk so darned much. When I'm running through town at top speed, I don't need someone I pass on the street to say, "I don't have time to talk to you..."

Who asked you? Really, did anyone ask you to open your yap? Do I look like I care if you have time to talk to me?

It's not necessary for everyone to tell their life story every time they get within 100 yards of the player. And then when the speech is stupid, insulting, or inappropriate, it's even worse. It would be nice if there were fewer instances of people saying things altogether, and then perhaps the things could be better thought-out.

THIS and THIS and THIS! You all hit the nail on the head!

Oh I so want to smash in Dirge's face, too! I got the gloves, I should do it! hahahahaha
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:24 pm

I don't need fame. All I want is my sweetroll back.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:34 pm

A Thane is basically a vassal knight. It's not a position that makes you a boss, it just means you're a respected servant of the Jarl. There can be more than one Thane of a place, just like there can be more than one knight of a lord.

Let me put it this way: I'm a personal friend to the Jarl and everyone in her court; and in Solitude in particular, I had to fight one good battle at Wolfskull cave and a really hairy battle under the Temple in order to save the city from Potema. I've also played tag with the kids, and done various other favors to become one of the most favored citizens in Solitude. I should be afforded some respect by the mead swilling guards. So yes, while I'm not their boss, I'm certainly more important than them.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:53 pm

I have to go with the OP on this one. After everything you do, You get nothing for it. The Civil war is the dumbest one. I completed it and ran my sword through Alfric yet npc's still think the war is going one and that guy is still alive. I cured myself of werewolf a long time ago but guards still see fur in my ears. And i don't even bother to talk to npc's anymore. I already know the lines they have to say and what i can ask them. I blame this all on modern technology. Everyone wants voiceover's now in rpg's. No one likes to read text anymore. But you can only do so much voiceover's in a game thats why we have limited talking in the game. imagine what the budget for this must be.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:45 am

I think it would be a great idea to place an option in the game where your character can pick witch title the people will know him by.
Ok everyone knows you has the dragonborn but some people who roleplay might be happier being called
Harbinger, Listener, Archmage, Guildmaster, and so on. Of course only once you have completed the Quest that the option comes available.
I have completed all the above and have about 300 hours into it. And when I walk through a hold I can't help feeling like I have done nothing
Obviously Beating the main Quest should have had some effect on the people of Skyrim, and I had done so at about 150 hours into the game
But no one is aware and ack like the world is still in danger.
I wouldn't even some sort of Boost option so you can share you acomplishments with everyone around you at that moment.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:25 am

The average citizenry been unaware is no great surprise, they only knew dragons are back, nothing about the world eater. In fact, they would be wondering exactly when is the dragonborn going to do something about that dragon in their back yard who comes in every month to go all stompy on their crops.

On the other hand, Vekel the girlie man and Dirge has no such excuse. The moment I become the guildmaster and they disrespect me, I make them lie face down in the gutter.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:01 pm

The average citizenry been unaware is no great surprise, they only knew dragons are back, nothing about the world eater. In fact, they would be wondering exactly when is the dragonborn going to do something about that dragon in their back yard who comes in every month to go all stompy on their crops.

On the other hand, Vekel the girlie man and Dirge has no such excuse. The moment I become the guildmaster and they disrespect me, I make them lie face down in the gutter.

And yet your average town guard anywhere in Skyrim can address you as Dovahkiin, or remark about the attack on Kynesgrow. You can't use realism like a switch to flip on and off when it's convenient. If some people in the middle of nowhere can find out big news like....the world being saved from a horrendous dragon, so can anyone. And within the game itself, news hardly travels slow if you take the physical characters into play. A trading caravan can haul rear cross country in a few in-game days, so I doubt people can't get a hold of information that vital over the course of weeks/months.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:57 pm

And yet your average town guard anywhere in Skyrim can address you as Dovahkiin, or remark about the attack on Kynesgrow. You can't use realism like a switch to flip on and off when it's convenient. If some people in the middle of nowhere can find out big news like....the world being saved from a horrendous dragon, so can anyone. And within the game itself, news hardly travels slow if you take the physical characters into play. A trading caravan can haul rear cross country in a few in-game days, so I doubt people can't get a hold of information that vital over the course of weeks/months.

Guards are all Brotherhood assassins so there's that.

Anyway, correct, you are known as the Dovahkiin to all. But, it just means someone born with the soul of a dragon and it was not uncommon in the ages past.

No one actually told them you fought and kill the world-eater. Many would not know Alduin if he bite them in the behind, they would assume he is just a brother dragon.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:14 pm

For anyone to see your face and automatically identify you as a dragonborn is stretching it (in an age with no pictures/video cameras/and from what I've seen, no real detailed drawings). I'd say news about Alduin who laid waste to an entire city and threatens to end your entire world is a bit more telling, especially since you can't really miss Alduin. Giant black spiky dragon and all...
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:26 am

For anyone to see your face and automatically identify you as a dragonborn is stretching it (in an age with no pictures/video cameras/and from what I've seen, no real detailed drawings). I'd say news about Alduin who laid waste to an entire city and threatens to end your entire world is a bit more telling, especially since you can't really miss Alduin. Giant black spiky dragon and all...

No no you are missing my point. No one except the blades, the greybeards, balgaf the greater, and those who meet in the war council knew of Alduin.

Starting a doomsday panic wouldn't help anyone and so those in the know didn't really send word to everyone that the world is about to end.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:38 pm

No no you are missing my point. No one except the blades, the greybeards, balgaf the greater, and those who meet in the war council knew of Alduin.

Not true. Sven, a lowly bard in riverwood, sings about Alduin and the fury he poses. During a quest (forgot which one) where you go to dawnstar and meet up with someone near the mines, a guard talks to his superior about lack of reinforcements and the dangers of Alduin. In one of the orc camps (think the one near Markarth or something around there), one of the guys standing around whips up a conversation with a trainer about Alduin and how he might be a threat to their village.

There are dozens and dozens of examples of people from all over I can recall who not only have heard of Alduin but heard of the attack on Helgen and his intentions.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:21 pm

Ppl love to throw the word "game breaker" around when not need,

remember that this is a RPG.. stuff like that totally removes all the immersion of the game.. im so dissappointed... totally agree with OP
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:28 am

Don't forget about the bards in every town that sing about the Dragonborn too.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:22 am

Honestly I just wish that NPC would talk less in Skyrim. Every single time I pass them I have to listen to the same phrases, stories and personal info over and over. I really wish you could turn off citizen pvssyr in the options menu.

Oblivion did citizen pvssyr right. I liked the simple "hello" from people in that game.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:35 pm

THIS and THIS and THIS! You all hit the nail on the head!

Oh I so want to smash in Dirge's face, too! I got the gloves, I should do it! hahahahaha
Dirge died for me in the thalmor attack during a cornered rat... was quite funny though when tonillia said she could get him to bash me or something of that sort, then i looked over at his cold, dead body, that wasn't gone yet.
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