I have used a few hours to figure out how to use papyrus correctly but it seems very complicated and hard to use after all. I used to script a lot with Oblivion engine and when I'm trying to do things in Skyrim which are very simple to do in Oblivion they seemed to be broken with papyrus. For example I have now tried to simple OnActivate script on a specific bedroll to move player to certain marker instead of sleeping/serving the jail time. For some reason it seems that the default activation happens at first and so my script never occurs. If someone can help me to find a way to run this properly I'll be grateful. Here's my script in the spoiler:

if you want to avoid activation between actor and objects, you can use BlockActivation() . Then you can still activate the object via Script call. (but I am not sure to understand what you mean by default activation?)

I think you understand it just right - I mean the activation which happens normally when the object isn't connected to any scripts. Anyway the BlockActivation() is probably exactly what I need but unfortunately I'm unable to get it right it says "GoToJailShipscript.psc(6,8): no viable alternative at input '.'No output generated for GoToJailShipscript, compilation failed." When I tried it and I can't see what I did wrong

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Functions are not called directly, you must call them through event()
Here , the most reliable for this situation is probably the OnInit() event, that fires when the script/object is initialised

While assuming your script is attached to the JailBed1 object, this should looks like this:

Scriptname GoToJailShipscript extends ObjectReferenceActor Property PlayerREF AutoObjectReference Property JailShipMarker AutoEvent oninit()   BlockActivation()endeventEvent OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)   If akActionRef == PlayerREF	  akActionRef.MoveTo (JailShipMarker)   EndIfEndEvent

Even with that the original problem stays: normal activation happens and my script doesn't.

Might you have loaded a save in which the script was already attached to you object? Because in that case the http://www.creationkit.com/OnInit event wouldn't have been called on it so its default activation wouldn't have become blocked.

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I did so. Now I tried it with older save and the activation is blocked, but that blocks also the OnActivate script - so nothing happens with the bedroll now.

Check, in an http://www.creationkit.com/OnActivate_(Papyrus) event, http://www.creationkit.com/IsActivationBlocked_-_ObjectReference. If so, code hinged on that will fire but the default activation will not.

ScriptName SomeContainerScript Extends ObjectReferenceEvent OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)	If IsActivationBlocked()		Debug.Trace("Don't open, but run this code")	Else		Debug.Trace("Open normally and run this code")	EndIfEndEvent

Nope that doesn't run on it either. May this problem exist because the script is placed on a bedroll not on a container or item?

Should work the same on a bedroll exchanging 'open' with 'sleep'. Did you try that after the activation blockage OnInit style?

I copied this script and loaded older save before I first time tried it but still nothing happens. Activation is blocked in all ways also the OnActivate.

the last script can't work
The thing is:
If you block the player activation on an object, you will not able to interact *with* the player normally (you cant sleep), *but* the event still fire in the script.

My first script should work, assuming you are using it on a clean save.
Otherwise you can put the blockactivation call into the onactivate event: the first time you are using it, it will not block, but after it will

Scriptname GoToJailShipscript extends ObjectReferenceActor Property PlayerREF AutoObjectReference Property JailShipMarker AutoEvent oninit()   BlockActivation()  debug.notification("bed Blocked")endeventEvent OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)   debug.notification("bed activated")   BlockActivation() ; in case you are not on a clean save   If akActionRef == PlayerREF		  debug.messagebox("teleportation")		  akActionRef.MoveTo (JailShipMarker)   EndIfEndEvent

I do this with my dead creatures. How I did it is add 2 scripts. One with OnActivate Event for block activation, the other with what I want to happen OnActivate.

So you have 2 events. I can't remember off the top of my head if I did have 2 seperate scripts, or both events in the same script. Either way I've done this to stop the inventory menu showing.

With that I got "Bed Blocked" message when loaded the save file and every time when I'm trying to activate the bed I get "Bed Activated" message but nothing else happens.

ok so what I guess, is that you didn't properly assign your properties in the CK.

Open the object in the CK, double click on the script, you have the property listed here, and you need to link each property to the relevant object in the world.
If your property name has the same than the object name (which is at least the case for playerRef), you can do this with the autofill button, otherwise, you will have to link them manually.

Ok so how I have it to block the inventory menu showing on a dead animal (which should translate to other things, like sleeping) is this.

I have a block script attached to the object:

Scriptname HISBlockActivation1 extends ObjectReference  {This script causes the actor to block activation upon loading.}Event OnLoad()BlockActivation(true)EndEvent

I then also have another script attached to it as follows:

Scriptname HISQuest1GoatRemains extends ObjectReference  Quest Property HISGuildQuest1  Auto  Event OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)	if (akActionRef == Game.GetPlayer()) && (HISGuildQuest1.GetStage() == 10)			   HISGuildQuest1.SetStage(20)      elseif (HISGuildQuest1.IsCompleted());Do nothing   else  endifendEvent

It does other stuff, but I've removed those lines as you don't need them.

I checked all the properties and they are linked right, I tried a few variations with different scripts but nothing seems to work. I made another script for blocking and the one only for the result I want but that didn't work either. I even made my scripts to use debug.CenterOnCell command and that only freezed the game.
I'm starting to feel frustrated with this. How can it be that so simple thing which takes me five minutes to do with Oblivion engine takes days with Skyrims engine and even after that it didn't work at all?

User error. This works:You should be able to copypasta, fill the properties, and have it all work w/o issue so long as you're not testing with a dirty save.

I tried this with a clean save and it worked. But I also had old code which didn't work earlier on another place and now even it worked right.
So on one bedroll I have this
And on another I have two scripts
Both ways gave me now same result and are working correctly. I wonder what was the problem I had with these earlier when they didn't work.

Thank you everyone for the help you gave me. All comments made me to read and learn more about the papyrus engine and its possibilities.

Not sure, but glad to hear things are falling into place

So it wasn't user (me) error then? Was a "Save has old scripts" problem, as both my way and your way work

Glad you got it sorted OP.