$61,670 for accountants and auditors, which is very good compared to the standard of living of Malta. Not sure if it's so good compared to the SOL of the US though.

gotta survive to spend it though.. and then it's gone and you find yourself back out there.. and it turns into a cycle..

$112,760 for me apparently. I won't hold my breath.

Unlikely. 90,000 is usually for senior software engineers with 5+ years of experience.

why dont he try and get involved now? enbridge here is looking for gas techs starting at almost $30/hr and they took out a huge ad in the classifieds for it. they may be loooking for other positions too. its never too late, he already has the degree. and keystone is a go, theres gon be more jobs available.
move into politics

Most U.S servicemen hate the PMC, they are monsters who kill for money. Not for their country, but cash. Little more then legal assassians who if left alone will do terrible things. We have horror stories about what some of those guys did.

Depends on how well you cook. If you cook really well, a lot of the big name owners or chefs like to go around to as many places they can to look for talent. And if you are good, but don't get picked up. You can allays start your own business.

So because it is for your country it is ok? Killing is never ok, but for some people it is what they are meant to do. I imagine most servicemen are in it for the money and not for their country. And atrocities happen all the time in war. It's war. Just because it is PMC doesnt make it worse.

You don't actually make a lot in the U.S military. And all the soldiers I have met or served with were in it because they believe that they were doing the right thing, and killing is not actually that commonplace. When you deploy to Afghanistan, yes there is a chance you will be involved in a firefight. The U.S military (along with a lot of other countries) are involved in peacekeeping operations were you are unlikely to even have to pull the trigger.

Also, killing someone who is innocent is not okay. We go after terrorists mostly, and when a non-combatant is killed indiscriminately, it disgusts a lot of people in the military. Right now, the opinion of almost all of the guys (or gals) I've spoken to on the subject believe that the person who did it should be trialed and put to death by firing squad. Killing is wrong, but a necessary evil to protect innocents. There are a ton of stories the news never shows about servicemen doing good, but those are all ignored and the bad stories get picked up to make us look like trigger happy psychos. And there are too many stories about PMC that don't get out, because they have the money to shut people up.

Is killing that commonplace within PMC though? I agree, killing an innocent is definitely not ok, but does it make it better that a PMC did it or an Anerican serviceman did it? No, it's equally as bad. Maybe there are also stories about American serviceman that don't get out. I don't mean to insult the military by the way, they are doing good things for people.

Funny how regular grunts never seemed to hate us when we were called in to save their young, inexperienced bacon..



Now you're just making me mad..



Really? Because I don't see a whole lot of PMCs hiring out to the Taliban.. and every single operative is a seasoned veteran with years of solid and dependable service to their respected countries.. flakes, jack-offs and wannabes with only a single service hash don't make the grade..

first, it's assassins, and we do what the governments need doing but can't do thanks to public opinion and or hamstrung political restraints dictating operational mandate.

Someone has to get their hands dirty.. obviously isn't gonna be you.


and I have stories of what I did.. and put in the situation I'd make the same choices again. Hard choices that I'm sure you don't want to worry yourself about..


in any case 'warrior', what was that mos of yours?

3381?? riight...

certainly wasn't 02..

just leave me a wide berth.

id work for a pmc for sure, id wanna ado r&d and pr, pay could be okay, im more interested in the networking


im trying to wonder if i could have came up wityh similar responses as old andy without ttghe hands on experience, pr is tough

What's this?

Nobody hires out to the Taliban, and I never said they were untrained. My point was that they have stopped working for any cause, only for the next paycheck.

There is a reason the Government saves the missions for you that would make public opinion go south. PMC will do anything for money.

Making an assumption about me with no evidence.

And I wasn't saying anything about making hard decisions, I was talking about the all the times some PMC boys have gone into town, and were "Fired Upon" resulting in some "extremely unfortunate" civilian causalities. Maybe not the people you work with, but every single time I had to deal with those guys their answer to any hard question was to fire bullets at it until it goes away. I have had to make decisions that I have had to live with, and that remorse reminds me that i'm human. The moment that I don't regret every time I pull the trigger, or the day that I take any joy in having to end another man's life is the same day that I leave this profession.Not decide that It's time for a pay-raise.

And that's fine, I'll leave you alone if you leave me alone.


He thinks he knows who I am. Trying to scare me, a hollow threat.

￡10,000 a year ride operator master race here.

Be a chef for a few big name places, do some traveling, then get a show on the Food Network.

The end game is to own my own joint, anything after tha is just a bonus.

They pay twice as much as the U.S government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_occupation_code

gonna finish my novel and see how that goes XD

200 pages and rolling

wish me luck I might just finish it this year (maybe... depends on mood cause I'm not really in a hurry)

dude, this happens whether your dogging for the corp or for the flag.. geez.

What's getting me steamed is you make it our as if service members are a holier than thou and anyone who served privately is scum.

I'm not having that.

As did I every time some 18 year old snothole got himself in a jam from not knowing.., well, anything really.

the pay raise is for those who regret pulling a trigger, but are still willing to do it.

I have no idea who you are, as you have no idea of me.

I apologize for the mos crack, but you were sounding like a rear echelon commando..

But you don't see me making sweeping generalizations like you did. I will note that you're the only service member on this board I've ever heard so venomously negative towards PMCs, which begs to wonder what your experiences were with them?


I'm not looking for a fight, but when you dump all of us into the same [censored] barrel, you discredit a lot of honorable men who are very much the tip of a very pointy sword..

http://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html typically caps at 60,000$ a year. At least the living in the moment kind of happiness. The looking back at your life style of happiness, not so much.

the real money is in IT Security. A penetration tester easily makes 80,000 pounds or 128,128 USD yearly.

No offense, but joining the military is a waste of time in my opinion. I would never join the military because I have issues with someone yelling at me to do something he would be getting a fist to the face. Also I am not willing to die for our corrupt piece of crap government. I do respect those who do fight in the military I do not understand why we dislike gays in the military, if they are willing to fight for our country then who gives a [censored], I sure as hell am not joining the military.

Most of the folks in the military I know don't fight for the government, but for the people. And if you have authority issues, its your problem, straighten up and act like a man.
I agree that our government isn't all that awesome, but it could be exponentially worse. Relatively speaking, we have it pretty damn good compared to most of the world.

If you're not willing to die for the people back home, I'd rather you not be defending them in the first place.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/world/asia/support-for-afghan-war-falls-in-us-poll-finds.html