IGN Top 100 RPG's of all time. Part 2 : Othor Games

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:00 pm

http://www.ign.com/top/rpgs

Seeing how most people here are RPG fans, thought that i'd post this. Seeing some good games there. Maybe we can guess games to appear on the list.

I'm gonna list the games to make stuff simpler

Also, I was at a crazy night so i didn't get to post my thoughts

100. Ys Book I & II
99. Lunar: Eternal Blue
98. Shadow Hearts: Covenant
97. Final Fantasy VIII
96. Phantasy Star
95. The Legend of Dragoon
94. Vagrant Story
93. Tales of Phantasia
92. Diablo III
91. Fable II
90. Persona 4
89. Fallout: New Vegas
88. Final Fantasy IX
87. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
86. Shadowrun
85. Breath of Fire III
84. Kingdom Hearts
83. Fire Emblem
82. Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven
81. Dragon Warrior VII
80. Dungeon Master
79. Icewind Dale 2
78. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Jings
77. Tales of Symphonia
76. Illusion of Gaia
75. Front Mission 3
74. Wizardry 8
73. Final Fantasy
72. Grandai II
71. The Bard's Tale
70. Demon's Souls
69. Persona 3
68. Kingdom Hearts II
67. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
66. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
65. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
64. Final Fantasy X
63. Skies of Arcadia
62. The World Ends with You
61. Chrono Cross
60. EVE Online
59. Phantasy Star IV
58. Freedom Force
57. Mass Effect 2
56. Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
55. Monster Hunter Tri
54. Neverwinter Nights 2
53. Ultima VII
52. Odin Sphere
51. Wild Arms
50. Golden Sun
49. Dragon Quest V
48. Tales of Destiny
47. Xenogears
46. Pool of Radiance
45. Disgaea
44. Suikoden II
43. Valkyria Chronicles
42. Lunar: Silver Star Story
41. Xenoblade Chronicles
40. Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
39. Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss
38. Phantasy Star II
37. Guild Wars
36. Shining Force II
35. Pokemon Black/White
34. Fallout
33. Ultima Online
32. The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
31. Neverwinter Nights
30. Jade Empire
29. Dragon Warrior
28. Fallout 2
27. Dragon Quest VIII
26. Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
25. Deus Ex
24. Baldur's Gate
23. Phantasy Star Online
22. The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
21. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
20. EverQuest
19. System Shock 2
18. Dark Souls
17. EarthBound
16. Diablo
15. Secret of Mana
14. Final Fantasy Tactics
13. Planescape: Torment
12. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
11. Final Fantasy VII
10. Fallout 3
9. Mass Effect
8. World of Warcraft
7. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
6. Diablo II
5. Final Fantasy IV
4. Pokemon Red/Blue
3. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2. Chrono Trigger
1. Final Fantasy VI

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:51 am

I am actually surprised that FF VI got number 1.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:14 pm

Reading this whole list has temporarily lowered my intelligence by 2. I really don't get why they even made this. Is Kindgom hearts even an RPG? I haven't played it in years but I thought it was an action-RPG that had minor RPG elements. So, yeah, like some said before, I'm putting my money on them just pulling these name's out of a hat, except for the last few.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:36 pm

Well, at least Skyrim didn't get the first place.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:06 pm

How To: Make a Top 100 RPGs of All Time list

Take last year's/decade's Top 100 list (if you didn't make one, shame on you. Steal someone else's)
Remove one random entry per year (make sure not to remove staple classics to remain somewhat credible)
Add one popular RPG from each year since last list, preferably according to Metacritic scores or copies sold
If no popular RPG exists for a given year, add two from another, or add a game with mild RPG elements and call it an RPG
Profit from ad revenue generated by fans who are only viewing the list to complain about it

» Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:21 am

I don't think anyone takes these lists serious, at least I hope so.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:24 pm

Pokemon is an RPG? What the [censored].....

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:52 pm

Pokemon is an RPG? What the [censored].....

Your Pokemans level up and you can teach them new moves. I'd say it's an RPG. You have a lot of choice in how to approach battles, what team to form, what moves they know, how they're raised, etc. A strategic turn-based roleplaying game.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:37 pm

I don't think anyone takes these lists serious, at least I hope so. :tongue:

This. "Top 100" lists, in any field/genre, are typically junk.

..and yes, pretty much all of those games have been called RPGs. By someone. (I mean, heck - if a total action-fest like the Souls games, and FPS's like System Shock and Deus Ex can be RPGs, any of those other things can. Heck, if no-actual-roleplaying-at-all lootfests like the Diablo games can be called RPGs..... etc, etc, etc)

» Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:56 am

Skyrim got jobbed big time.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:19 am

Skyrim got jobbed big time.

#MASTERPIECE

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:40 am

Pokemon is an RPG? What the [censored].....

Oh yeah and as someone who is currently replaying Red, well FireRed, I have to say pretty happy it got that high. I'm not entierly sure it should be there compared to some other games but oh well! Nice to see it there :tongue:

Also are my eyes really tired or is Kotor not on the list? I really enjoyed that... thought it deserved to be on the list. Edit: Also Mass Effect 2 is on there but is Mass Effect the original, a game far better in my opinion. Urg, eyestrain looking on that list. But it is IGN after all and they probably just put 100 rpg names in a hat and pulled them out one by one to decide the order!

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:33 pm

#MASTERPIECE

This

FOREVER

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:22 pm

Also are my eyes really tired or is Kotor not on the list? I really enjoyed that... thought it deserved to be on the list.

Yeah, it's at number 12.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:58 pm

Yeah, it's at number 12.

Oh right, thanks it's my eyes. Oh, I see, I was skimming and looking for K not S. :biggrin:

Edit: Hang on a tick, WoW is a MMO not an rpg. At least in the traditional sense...

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:06 pm

Your Pokemans level up and you can teach them new moves. I'd say it's an RPG. You have a lot of choice in how to approach battles, what team to form, what moves they know, how they're raised, etc. A strategic turn-based roleplaying game.

That's like saying Dead Island is an RPG because you can raise your level and learn new moves. You have a lot of choice of how to approach a battle, what weapons to use, what moves you know, and how you pursue the game.

Also, turn based isnt a definer of an RPG, that's just strategy.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:40 am

Skyrim got jobbed big time.

Being the seventh draw out of the hat is pretty lucky, actually.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:41 pm

That's like saying Dead Island is an RPG because you can raise your level and learn new moves. You have a lot of choice of how to approach a battle, what weapons to use, what moves you know, and how you pursue the game.

Also, turn based isnt a definer of an RPG, that's just strategy.

Well in Pokemon your weapons are your individual Pokemon. They each have certain moves and as they develop in level they can learn new ones. It may have turn based combat but many rpg games have this. There is an exploration and travelling element also where you talk to NPC's and complete quests, or, tasks for a better word as you travel the world in your quest to become champion.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:54 pm

Skyrim got jobbed big time.

WRPG's got jobbed big time...but only if the list had any credibility. I think JRPG's should be judged on a separate scale. They have nothing to do with WRPG's. Todd Howard has said as much. Aside from actual story dynamics, customization, and gender choice, there could be hair spikiness, hair purpleness, and PC broodiness.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:17 pm

32. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

7. The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind

Fixed.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:31 pm

Well in Pokemon your weapons are your individual Pokemon. They each have certain moves and as they develop in level they can learn new ones. It may have turn based combat but many rpg games have this. There is an exploration and travelling element also where you talk to NPC's and complete quests, or, tasks for a better word as you travel the world in your quest to become champion.

Turn based is an irrelevant feature. You can also explore and travel in many games and talk to NPCs to complete various quests. But ultimately, this is all filler content. Pokemon is more or less a grindfest with a lot of filler. I enjoy pokemon, but I'd certaintly never call it an RPG.

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:06 pm

How could Dark Souls not be an RPG? Stats, character skill is important just like player skill. You need to think to win. Tactics apply, you play a role etc etc.

I think Dragons Dogma deserves a spot on that list. Probably in the latter parts like 80's and above but still a spot. The list is crap anyways. I don't think anyone thinks of Pokemon when they think of RPGs. Even though it is arguably an RPG. Sure it has RPG elements and all but so does CoD...

» Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:57 pm

~~I can tolerate Fallout 3 being above NV, but 10? I really don't see how anybody could call it the 10th greatest RPG of all time.~~

Why do I care about this list again?

Skyrim got jobbed big time.

You. I don't understand you. Star struck and filled with fanlove? Incredibly sarcastic? We'll never know.