PC Impressions

Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:48 am

Ok.... What the h*ll is a dx11 texture??!? Before you post, make sure you know what you are talking about.

Textures using DX11 features....

I apologize. Since this is the PC section of the forum, I made the assumption that anyone with a mental capacity of a chimp would be able to logical connect the two commonly used words together. Don't worry, it's not your fault, I guess evolution hasn't come as far as we had originally believed. In order to prevent any further misunderstandings, I will be sure to use colorful pretty little pictures to explain any of the fundamental ideas or concepts that I may discuss therein.

Don't be glib, you knew he was referring to tessellation [on the textures]

I honestly believe that the previously quoted poster was being serious.
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Russell Davies
 
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:15 pm

whilst i understand what you guys are sayin, i have the 360 version and pc version, after playin the pc version then tryin the 360 one it looks so much better, i couldnt stand the 360 version after, just looked like a blurry mess in comparison, so i guess im greatfull they at least gave us some advanced options where as they could of gave us fuk all. but yeah im fed up of consoles holdin back pcs too, isnt there anythin u guys can do with the ini files to get it lookin how u want.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:20 pm

Based on those screenies, I am a little underwhelmed with the graphics. I don't have the game yet, but it looks like it's a slight upgrade to Oblivion, a 6 yo game. No DX11 in 2011?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:21 am

I'm loving the game...... when i can play it and it doesnt crash or spaz out
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:07 pm

Yeah, I'm with you 100% OP. I really am stunned as to why people think this game is crap. The UI is bad for us PC users but by no means is it a game breaker!!! Kinda disappointed how Todd made it sound so great but he is a console fan over the PC so I'm not surprised. I look forward to mods for fixing up some things that they could have done better. I'm extremely impressed with Skyrim despite some of things that I have seen that need to be fixed and I aint even scratched the surface yet of this MASSIVE game!!!
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:04 pm

Based on those screenies, I am a little underwhelmed with the graphics. I don't have the game yet, but it looks like it's a slight upgrade to Oblivion, a 6 yo game. No DX11 in 2011?
Spot the "slight" difference:

http://plume.dk/pictures/oblivion/oblivion47.jpg

http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot2.jpg
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:06 pm

I've read a few negative things about the PC version on this forum, but I can't help but think it's all over the top. I've played 6 hours and I love it, it's met all expectations. It's infinitely better than Oblivion, and best of all the world is so atmospheric, so beautiful, so fun to explore. I haven't even touched the main quest. I love the combat. I'm playing a mage, and combining spells rocks. Some areas are easy, some are difficult (I'm playing on Expert). I went in to some random dungeon and cleared most of it out before making my way through some traps, only to encounter a Vampire mage who kicked my ass. Good fun!

The UI isn't perfect, but it's still very good IMO. I'm using a keyboard and mouse (Razor Mamba) and it works brilliantly. I simply press Q to and use the mouse wheel to select through my favourites, or press P or I to get to the Magic/Item menus, then use my mouse pointer to select, easy! There's an occasional bug which stops the cursor from highlighting an item, but it's rare in my experience.

Finally...how can anyone say this game looks bad? Check these out: (I'm running at the highest possible settings)

http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot1.jpg
http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot2.jpg
http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot3.jpg
http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot4.jpg
http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot5.jpg
http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot6.jpg
http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot7.jpg


Let me put this to rest once and for all, because I went through this all when I was on the FEAR forums trying to get them to not ruin FEAR 2, which of course they did, but anyway listen

If you love the game, and do not think that it needs improvement, GO AWAY, Bethesda is a huge game company, they do not need you to defend them, as valid as everyone's opinion's are, every single time someone says "this should be improved" and someone else says "its not that bad" you are spitting on game development because seriously there is no reason to find every single thing that is wrong with the game and howl your head off about it to the company, because that is the only way that it will get better next time. I for one will play Skyrim for hours and I will love it and it is fun etc etc...but I will also get on board with speaking out about how bad the static conversations are, the lackluster main story, the scaling still being fairly annoying etc etc
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Spot the "slight" difference:

http://plume.dk/pictures/oblivion/oblivion47.jpg

http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot2.jpg


lmao.....there is no difference what so ever. ~extreme sarcasm~ :whistling:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:47 pm

Let me put this to rest once and for all, because I went through this all when I was on the FEAR forums trying to get them to not ruin FEAR 2, which of course they did, but anyway listen

If you love the game, and do not think that it needs improvement, GO AWAY, Bethesda is a huge game company, they do not need you to defend them, as valid as everyone's opinion's are, every single time someone says "this should be improved" and someone else says "its not that bad" you are spitting on game development because seriously there is no reason to find every single thing that is wrong with the game and howl your head off about it to the company, because that is the only way that it will get better next time. I for one will play Skyrim for hours and I will love it and it is fun etc etc...but I will also get on board with speaking out about how bad the static conversations are, the lackluster main story, the scaling still being fairly annoying etc etc
Get a grip. I'm not defending anyone, I'm giving my opinion about a video game I've bought. I suggest you "go away" if you're unable to deal with that without resorting to angry rants.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 9:18 pm

Its always a red flag when I get Xbox prompts for a PC game. and even worse when no mouse pointer appears and only certain keys work and there's no control options menu and...

If developers are too lazy to do a proper port to PC, they should just outsourse the job to someone else.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:39 pm

Its always a red flag when I get Xbox prompts for a PC game. and even worse when no mouse pointer appears and only certain keys wok and there's no control options menu and...

If developers are too lazy to do a proper port to PC, they should just outsourse the job to someone else.
You need to go to the gameplay options and un-tick "xbox 360 controller", then you'll be able to use the mouse just fine, with no 360 prompts.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:26 pm

If developers are too lazy to do a proper port to PC, they should just outsourse the job to someone else.


That!!! :toughninja:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:26 pm

Spot the "slight" difference:

http://plume.dk/pictures/oblivion/oblivion47.jpg

http://satanspetpenguin.com/Screenshot2.jpg

Despite your Oblivion on lowest, you still made my point. Considering Oblivion was made 5 years ago when our comps were single cores with 256 meg vid cards, this is "slightly" better. Like I said, I don't have the game, but the screenies are underwhelming. I guess that's what you get with a console port.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:15 pm

As an Oblivion player I really hoped Bethesda will improve bad stuff , but I expected that they will leave that burden on modding community. Well, I only played the initial part And came to first village, but i must say i am pretty much disappointed about many things, especially since Bethesda was rising high hopes with some of their statements.

1. You remember the very first teaser for Skyrim (it was a bit changed after that). That one raised my hair with the music an accents and the voice and the wall full of details and dragon raising out of the wall. Simply great. So i expected to see something similar before game starts. We got zero. Bethesda's logo with 3 secs of sound, dragon picture and game starts, no music, no nothing, only plain Skyrim word on screen, like being cut from white paper. No pompous music, no "give me more" loading screens, just boring 3 screens, not related to teaser at all.


2. Bethesda promised better looking characters and some people described them as nice, but the first time i seen them before game release, they were still ugly, races look very much alike, females have too many male attributes. Making a nice character is still a hard job in Skyrim. There r tones of games with nice characters (humanlike) and with much easier ways to create them. Bethesda has no idea what simple UI is and still forcing us to go forth and back on menus to change nose and hair and head... i gave up on that after 2 minutes. Have you people ever though about having all sliders for all body parts on the same screen with sliders with numbers and not 4 to 10 presets?? Go play Aion and compare those characters with yours.

Luckily we look at characters from the back, so it doesn't really matter how they look like.


3. So much anticipated improved skill and inventory menus are just a joke. Menus are too big, full of wasted space, too much back and forth clicking for simple task. I admit that items in preview window look nice, but when u play the game that doesn't matter. Again i prefer smaller icons from Aion if I have to choose among Aion and Skyrim. Why the hell you think people downloaded DarnUI for Oblivion so many times??


4. The game that starts in a small window with a sound that can't be heard makes a very bad first impression. I think that Bethesda simply can't afford to leave out video menu from settings, leave in console settings info and similar stuff.


5. Field of view is awful (1200x1920 resolution) and zooming range is inadequate and way too slow. In the initial intro scene the executioner with blade that is about to cut my head just falls down , i can only see dragon behind but can't see if dragon does anything to him and i am just guessing why he fell like that. Too much mouse ironing as well to make a 180° turn. (BTW the first prisoners who get s killed has his body leaned way too far over the neck hole). Picking items with mouse is pure torture. First person view is same as in Oblivion and i never liked to see that huge weapon covering a big part of my screen


6. Not being able to see the whole character in inventory screen left me speechless.


7. We are still able to walk down the very steep (way to steep for my taste) terrain and surviving.


8. The game runs smooth for me on ultra (i 720, Radeon 4870 1GB, 6 GB RAM), graphic card is louder than i prefer though (same as in Oblivion).


9. Animations are below expectations. My Redwood woman walks like a monkey, not like woman, or shall i say, she runs like a woman with chronic pain in the back and wornout hips. Like someone else said so far fighting animations are dull, especially compared what other games have shown us.


10. Textures and graphic part is more detailed, which i like, but at the same time (take cave part at the very start) it is almost too detailed (compare animal skins to windows above them in a main house in Riverwood) even in dark areas (i can't describe, but it doesn't look very natural, maybe it's because of shadows...) and all items drop too much shadow on the ground. When a bird is flying over i can see a shadow that is too detailed, compared to shadows in real life.


11. Home buffalo reminds too much of those twoheaded ones from Fallout 3. Maybe i am wrong.


9. Default shadows on ground are jaggy...again.


10. Water textures are greatly improved, but the edge of water is same as in Oblivion, not natural at all, also water in the first cave that runs over stones is a bit weird, u can notice that btw without starring at it for a long time.



I just threw some of mine impressions, it was just the way i expected, looks somewhat nicer, but with plenty of Oblivion and Fallout 3 leftovers, I'd prefer if Bethesda took some more time to make at least extraordinary impression with first 30 secs of loading the game for the first time. If Bethesda cant make a useful UI then to hell with them. People want to play not spend time in menus. UI is simply and plain terrible, at least give us an option to see icons in UI and to click on them..just make something new...


To be honest I was messing with Skyrim for 1 hour, then i left without any regret and with bad taste in my mouth. Now i started it again to find the rest of goods and bads, but it is awful to fight even a lone wolf cause character turns around like snail. Meh, i was sure i'd leave Aion for ever for Skyrim, but I was wrong. Well, i must give Skyrim some more chance anyway...
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:32 pm

Despite your Oblivion on lowest, you still made my point. Considering Oblivion was made 5 years ago when our comps were single cores with 256 meg vid cards, this is "slightly" better. Like I said, I don't have the game, but the screenies are underwhelming. I guess that's what you get with a console port.
That's not even my Oblivion screenshot, it's a random one from google. Either way your point isn't made, there's more than a slight difference, unless you're confused about the definition of slight.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:51 pm

You need to go to the gameplay options and un-tick "xbox 360 controller", then you'll be able to use the mouse just fine, with no 360 prompts.


Pressing ESC does nothing. No option menu appears. that's my problem. and control options aren't available in the start up menu.

I can't even exit the game properly because of this. I have to use CTRL, ALT, DELETE function.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:21 am

Pressing ESC does nothing. No option menu appears. that's my problem. and control options aren't available in the start up menu.

I can't even exit the game properly because of this. I have to use CTRL, ALT, DELETE function.
Then you will have to open the ini file and manually disable the 360 controller.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:26 am

Then you will have to open the ini file and manually disable the 360 controller.

Do I set the value to 0 to do that?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:39 am

That's right
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:32 pm

I like to see tree branches moving, but trees are sahking from wind in a very peculiar way...
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:23 pm

Lots of muddy textures on PC version. Oh well, I bought the PC version because TES modders are second to none. I expect it won't be long before I'm pulling my hair out trying to make 100 mods work together. Ah, summer days...
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:24 pm

That's right

In the Skyrim Prefs.ini, I changed Bgamepad enable from 1 to 0. that didn't work.

It's off topic anyway...

Does Bethesda even have tech support?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:04 am

That's not even my Oblivion screenshot, it's a random one from google. Either way your point isn't made, there's more than a slight difference, unless you're confused about the definition of slight.

It is all relative. I only feel "slightly" bad about blowing 3k on a modern gaming PC while blue chip studios like Bethesda feel "slightly" bad about choosing 5 yo DX9 over DX11. Shame on me for higher expectations.
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